Splash Mountain Poll

How do you feel about the continued broken "laughing place"?

  • Inexcuseable - Where is the quality and pride in such a classic attraction?

    Votes: 70 70.7%
  • Don't Care - It's just 1 part of the ride. It doesn't matter to me.

    Votes: 29 29.3%

  • Total voters
    99

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
The water cannons that used to get you wet on your way up the first hill have been turned off permanently.
Off? The water cannons I'm thinking of are after the first small drop. DS is pretty sure they were working about 2 weeks ago, just not shooting water as far as they normally do. I'm one of those annoying people who bring a poncho just so I don't get soaked by those water cannons.
 

Zummi Gummi

Pioneering the Universe Within!
Off? The water cannons I'm thinking of are after the first small drop. DS is pretty sure they were working about 2 weeks ago, just not shooting water as far as they normally do. I'm one of those annoying people who bring a poncho just so I don't get soaked by those water cannons.

We may be thinking of different cannons. I'm speaking of the one that used to get your log wet right before you go up the first hill. The cannon only shoots in the opposite direction of the log now, whereas before, if you timed it wrong, you would get a boat of water (and get wetter there than during the big drop).
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Or maybe its that the poll itself is so flawed because it forces people into a extreme group?

Any poll tends to to be flawed. There is no way to represent every possible opinion that might be represented. In this case, no one is forced to vote in the poll, so if one of the two choices does not express your feelings, the best option would be not to vote.

I love how quickly people here at times try to insult people for their opinions..for the record I must be a "what do they Know? Tourist" that he has heard so much about even though techincally Ive been a resident of Florida for 44 years and have been attending Disney regularly since 1975..and my vote was the the Dont care option because of the limited wording of the 2 choices it best described my view...I rode it in January and didnt have any particular issue with it..every attraction at Disney can always have something done to improve mechanics or visuals..when Im there over Labor day Ill certainly ride splash mountain more than once..and while Ill certainly notice things amiss it wont be the end of the world..the reality is we dont know what parts of rides are turned off permanately for safety issues (legal issues) or are just broken..it amuses me when people speak out of hand that fixes are simple..why cant they do it quicker..unless you're an engineer on the project..I doubt many are qualified to even guess what it takes..opinionate sure..be frustrated that it isnt fixed in what you percieve a timely manner..fair enough..insult people for voting against your viewpoint...silly

There is a lot of defensiveness in this post that I won't bother to address, I'm not here looking for a personal fight.

I just do not see how someone could vote, "I Don't Care". It is a major show scene that has been completely removed for months.

If the wording of the poll doesn't suit you, then it would be better to just not vote.
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
We may be thinking of different cannons. I'm speaking of the one that used to get your log wet right before you go up the first hill. The cannon only shoots in the opposite direction of the log now, whereas before, if you timed it wrong, you would get a boat of water (and get wetter there than during the big drop).
The one I'm thinking of occurs after the first smaller drop. It's in the front of the attraction and you can see it from the bridge. It's during the 180 degree turn that leads you back inside.
 

sgtmgd

Well-Known Member
Any poll tends to to be flawed. There is no way to represent every possible opinion that might be represented. In this case, no one is forced to vote in the poll, so if one of the two choices does not express your feelings, the best option would be not to vote.



There is a lot of defensiveness in this post that I won't bother to address, I'm not here looking for a personal fight.

I just do not see how someone could vote, "I Don't Care". It is a major show scene that has been completely removed for months.

If the wording of the poll doesn't suit you, then it would be better to just not vote.


Your post ridiculed people for not voting the way you seem to think is best..had you left out the "what do they know Tourist" comment your post was fine..I simply get tired of people insulting others for opinions that were asked for..thats not being defensive ..its responding to your choice of putting people into a certain class. Im fortunate to visit Disney more than most people, if you cant respect someone else's opinion without trying to be insulting about it, then the meaning of Disney is probably lost on you.
 

ShookieJones

We need time for things to happen.
I thought the term "inexcusable" was a little harsh and overly negative when I first read it and was also wondering why there wasn't a 3rd more moderate choice....

BUT - the more I think about the actual sentiment behind it- it makes sense.
What's inexcusable is the fact that it's a "flagship" Disney attraction and the laughing place segment 'not functioning' for so long is just ridiculous.
Especially with the amount of money we hand over for these expediences.

By no means am I a doom and gloomer, but expecting my (and many other's) favorite ride being below (what we have always considered) Disney standards - I don't think is that negative of a view point.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
I'd just like to say that when I was an Attractions CM at Disneyland in Fantasyland, if ONE show scene was not working for some reason before the park opened to guests, the ride wouldn't open at all until we got the one show scene to work. If the show scene happened to work in the morning but for some reason it happened to stop during the day, a very loyal and diehard Disneyland guest would report it to us and we would literally get everyone off the ride, close the queue and shut down the ride until the problem was fixed. If the missing effect was as "minor" and "small" as Peter Pan's shadow once you left the Darling room scene, the ride would not open, even if everything else was working perfectly.

The point I'm trying to make is out of the four keys, show is the one that doesn't seem to be taken seriously. The fact that the laughing place, which is a huge show scene, has been neglected like this, not to mention based on this poll, a lot of people don't care at all, is really, really sad and near unbelievable. What's really even more unbelievable is the fact that you've got two resorts in this country, one in California and the other in Florida. These two resorts are owned by the exact same company, yet management's approach to certain things ate COMPLETELY different, as well as the loyal fans for each resort.
 
I have been a long time lurker on these Forums and this is my first post so bear with me.
Before my most recent trip in July 2012 I was on these forums reading about rides and shows and what problems they may have. When I saw all the commotion about the Laughing Place on Splash Mountain and how it was a disgrace to the ride, I at first just ignored it because there is a vast amount of complaining on this forum. When I did go on Splash Mountain which is one of my favourite rides and got to the Laughing Place, I cant lie I was disappointed. All the complaining is definitely warranted. Even my brother asked me why the water was not shooting across the room from turtle to turtle. It just feels like something is missing. I thing a refurbishment to fix the many minor problems on the ride would not hurt and I have a feeling once the new FL expansion is complete a refurb will take place. Splash has been one of THE must do ride for me at WDW for as long as I can remember and I just think it deserves better.
 

sgtmgd

Well-Known Member
I thought the term "inexcusable" was a little harsh and overly negative when I first read it and was also wondering why there wasn't a 3rd more moderate choice....

BUT - the more I think about the actual sentiment behind it- it makes sense.
What's inexcusable is the fact that it's a "flagship" Disney attraction and the laughing place segment 'not functioning' for so long is just ridiculous.
Especially with the amount of money we hand over for these expediences.

By no means am I a doom and gloomer, but expecting my (and many other's) favorite ride being below (what we have always considered) Disney standards - I don't think is that negative of a view point.

The problem is we dont know if its inexcusable or not, with all the construction and refurb at DW, the recent downtime of BTTM..maybe taking down SM for repairs is not in the best interest of DW until the give SM the refurb that most assume is coming...it may have been determined that its not a "quick fix" but then again maybe it is..YES we all have a right to expect DW to keep things in good working order..unless you are the engineers advising Disney on what it takes to fix these issues, all we can do is speculate that "it shouldnt take too long" I find it hard to believe these decisions are taken lightly by Disney Execs..but then again maybe they are....but that smy point...we dont know and therefore terms like inexcusable or dont care are going to provke discussions
 

captainkidd

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I could be completely wrong, but I really think the water shooting across in the laughing place would be a very simple fix. Think of those little windmill water things you buy that are meant to mellow you out with the sound of water running over the rocks. Those are controlled by motors that push the water. This is what the laughing place is on a bigger scale. Disney has these types of mechanisms all over the resort, at every park and most hotels.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
You know, it's funny. I absolutely LOVE Splash Mountain. And if I wasn't a member of WDWMagic.com, I doubt my husband and I would really notice the broken bits of the rides when we visit on our honeymoon in Oct. But the fact remains that I do visit here, and it's given me a greater understanding of what's going on in the parks.

What I mean to say is that to me, this is the first ride my husband and I rode on - on our first date as CM's - and it is my favourite ride for that reason. So it's important to me that Disney keep it up and that they honour it -- it's so important to so many people. But whether we would have noticed, had we not been WDWMagic.com members? That's a toss-up!!
I know what you mean. I visit the parks, and everything seems to function quite well. Then I visit the internet, and you'd think WDW is falling apart at the seams.

But the two are only seemingly mutually exclusive. The point is, that one does notice malfunctioning or lost effects: but on a subconscious level. A ride like Splash bombards you with sights, sounds, sensations and smells. You don't consciously notice that some of those effects are missing. But subconsciously, you do.

It's like watching a movie you love. Imagine they remove some small scenes, strip the background music during some key scenes, diminish the quality of the image a bit. Even if you know the movie well, you may not notice these things missing. But what you will notice is that, although you still love the film, you are not as engrossed as you used to be. The love is there, but it is slightly less exuberant, less ecstatic.

That is what is happening at WDW, the infamous Decline by Degrees. Slowly, detail by detail, mostly unnoticed by even regular visitors, fun stuff is disappearing. WDW was simply build so well, that you can run the place at seventy, sixty, fifty percent, and it is still magical. Sadly management has discovered this.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Any poll tends to to be flawed. There is no way to represent every possible opinion that might be represented. In this case, no one is forced to vote in the poll, so if one of the two choices does not express your feelings, the best option would be not to vote.

And this says tons about society today." Just don't vote if you don't like the options...."
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Your post ridiculed people for not voting the way you seem to think is best..had you left out the "what do they know Tourist" comment your post was fine..I simply get tired of people insulting others for opinions that were asked for..thats not being defensive ..its responding to your choice of putting people into a certain class. Im fortunate to visit Disney more than most people, if you cant respect someone else's opinion without trying to be insulting about it, then the meaning of Disney is probably lost on you.

It's not an opinion. It is inexcusable. Disney has show standards. Splash is not living up to those standards. Not debatable.

What is the meaning of Disney?
 

pumpkin7

Well-Known Member
You know, it's funny. I absolutely LOVE Splash Mountain. And if I wasn't a member of WDWMagic.com, I doubt my husband and I would really notice the broken bits of the rides when we visit on our honeymoon in Oct. But the fact remains that I do visit here, and it's given me a greater understanding of what's going on in the parks.

What I mean to say is that to me, this is the first ride my husband and I rode on - on our first date as CM's - and it is my favourite ride for that reason. So it's important to me that Disney keep it up and that they honour it -- it's so important to so many people. But whether we would have noticed, had we not been WDWMagic.com members? That's a toss-up!!

all i noticed when we went last was a fish wasn't jumping out the water during one ride through, but it was working the next ride.
then again i didn't notice the yeti was broken either until i joined up to these forums after our trip. lol.
i just hope all the knowledge i have amassed on these forums doesn't spoil it for me next time.
 

sgtmgd

Well-Known Member
It's not an opinion. It is inexcusable. Disney has show standards. Splash is not living up to those standards. Not debatable.

What is the meaning of Disney?


Funny thing as the poll was asking for an opinion..you choice of wording was poor, if by some chance you are a Mechanical or Electrical engineer or part of the Management team at Disney assigned to Spalsh Mountain and have first hand knowlege of the problems and what it takes to fix it..then by all means you would be qualified to make an excusable or inexcusable statement..as Im simply a Network Engineer I wont make those assumptions.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Funny thing as the poll was asking for an opinion..you choice of wording was poor, if by some chance you are a Mechanical or Electrical engineer or part of the Management team at Disney assigned to Spalsh Mountain and have first hand knowlege of the problems and what it takes to fix it..then by all means you would be qualified to make an excusable or inexcusable statement..as Im simply a Network Engineer I wont make those assumptions.

The reasons behind it are irrelevant.

What is the meaning of Disney?
 

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