I thought @WDW1974 said it came from someone internally. Maybe he can clarify.Where did that doc come from? It doesn't read like an "internal" doc?
I have been getting a steady stream of information regarding Fastpass+/NEXT GEN for quite a while now. Some of it can not be posted for what should be obvious reasons. And much of it can't be confirmed because of the secrecy of the very project and the turmoil that has surrounded this ever since Nick Franklin and Jay Rasulo talked Bob Iger into signing off on it what seems like eons ago.
Generally, I like to be 100% sure when posting anything that isn't my opinion/thoughts but that isn't always possible and this source is quite good and quite knowledgable about what is going on. And the assurances I have had to give to gain some of this information, you could say the 'negotiations', make me more confident of the veracity of what I have gained.
I like how now I'm a parrot, I'll end this by saying one thing you have absolutely no right to bully others. I've been here over two years 74, I've not once called you a name and of coarse if anyone questions you, you resort to name calling. Yeah my ego is so huge that after this I will walk away. Just remember I never called you soft, I never questioned your intent I simply asked your agenda and if your agenda wouldn't be better served if the rhetoric was turned down. Like I said if this is so important in your life that you result to name calling and discredit then who really has the issue. Was I a parrot when you were calling posters houses attempting to figure out my identity, was I a parrot when you called me and had a 3 hour long conversation. Again I walk away because I have no ego and what happens on a disney message board has no real impact on the world outside of the web. I asked some questions you sent some pm's questioning my intentions and called me names on more than one occasion in the pm. You also accused me of defending trolls, that wasn't the purpose. Again it's been fun but I really don't have the time,energy or ego to continue this
Basically I said that to Tony was working on a project for MK and was told not gonna happen by a few people. Not naming names but one rhymes with pee the other comes after 73
No offense to anyone here or on any board, I am not here to cultivate an image and actually care very little about what anyone here or anyone else thinks about me. I don't troll 74 can verify most of what I've said and if he doesn't, oh well. What I've told is correct at the present time. Too many people here take things way too serious and get bent out of shape way too easily. I love how certain individuals here treat this as the most important aspect of their lives. Believe with all the Internet cred in the world it still won't pay my bills and it still won't get me on the subway
Now I'm going to say something that may upset a few people, it's not intended to be mean spirited at all. 74 and lee are not the end all be all when it comes to Disney rumors, do they know a lot yes, everything no. I wouldn't even claim that, I just think that too much stock is put into all this. Everyone have a good holiday.
You've got my number so does lee, I'm waiting
Conversely, if Disney wasn't so focused on its datamining scheme they might actually have the time and resources to build something new and worthy in the parks. Or perhaps they're focused on datamining because they're no longer capable of building new and exciting things.
It's making my head spin. What's with the threats to post private messages?
Doesn't the new Glow With The Show Mouse Ears at Disneyland also have some sort of tracking capabilities?
They must in order for certain areas to change colors separately than the other areas. I've seen a wave effect at WoC so there has to be some kind of tracking who is in what area.
Assuming the document is legitimate, which despite the Spirit's reputation is not a given... It clearly has to be a very early document in the NextGen development and presumably has been entirely negated by the information we already have about the MagicBands: they are not "GPS-enabled" in the form that was announced widely.'74 asked me to drop this here for him, due to his inability to post certain things.
Nothing...you have pretty much nailed it. No one can be forced to succumb to any attempt to make them buy more, spend more or whatever. It is an individual choice. If their methods make it an unpleasant place to be then you can bet that people will stop going there. I know I will. It's not an idol threat, it's reality. I go to Disney because I enjoy my time there. When/if the time comes that it no longer fulfills that need for me, I will have no desire to go there any longer. Nostalgia is only a portion of my motivation. I, historically, do not stay on site and I am, of course, curious as to how this is going to affect my visit, however, the first time I go there after all is in place, I will know and that is where my judgement will come from.This is a very polarizing subject. You're either totally against it, or you see no issue to worry about. Guess which camp I'm in?
In all the comments I've seen though, I've yet to see anyone explain why having Disney "track" you at WDW is a bad/dangerous thing, or what it is we have to worry about?
Would somebody mind telling me why this is a bad thing? What is it you are worried about Disney doing with your touring information? Sure, I get that they will know what I ride, buy, eat, but haven't they already know most of this? It probably wasn't as detailed as what it will be with the MagicBand, but they could still build analytical data which they could use to influence how I toured the parks.
I know the information they collect will likely be used to try and further influence me while at WDW to spend more money, but I'm not afraid that it will be in such a way that I'm worried. By that I mean, this is something they and every retailer, TV show, commercial, movie theater has been doing for years in a mostly subtle way, and this is just the natural evolution of that. I don't expect there to be a hard push or even (overtly) subliminal messages to make me buy stuff any more than they've done in the past, because I know that if they try and do this in a way that would cross the line, there would be a huge outcry. So, what is it I'm missing in the paranoia?
Since I already have at least 20 posts expressing my concern about my location being tracked by a corporation ...
In other words, Disney will collect location information but not share it if you can figure out which one of about 50 boxes to uncheck. But they will still collect and use it. They just won't share it. Didn't their parents ever teach them to share?
“Big Brother is Watching You.”
This is a very polarizing subject. You're either totally against it, or you see no issue to worry about. Guess which camp I'm in?
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