Spaceship in Spaceship Earth

[mousermerf]

What... the news screen is more in 180top than in the core? DO upload

Okie dokie...

Not a huge difference, but I also found soemthing of interest in the photo too - a possible point where the satellite might of been mounted.

So, here's the back of the "News" screen, right before Bean took the photo of merf's vehicle. (merf was "behind" bean on the ride several cars, but we were traveling backwards at this poiont)

You can see the Earth projection as a fuzzy spot in the upper left, of the screen, and then the exit door to.. who knows what area? I think the thing of the right side is the water mister setup and laser curved thingy, but can't be sure, there is also a walkway with railing toward that side that I might of gotten a reflection off of.

Note how just past the light, there's a very skinny wall that arches up. (you can see it's skinny top side reflecting light from my flash).

The important parts are the Exit sign, with the door clearly beneath it, and that light pointing toward the track. They show up in the next photo.

Note how just past the light, there's a very skinny wall that arches up. (you can see it's skinny top side reflecting light from my flash).

Next photo.. At this point I had blinded myself with the flash and couldn't see anything. I lucked out in getting the same things in the shot.

Our friend the light! And the exit sign! There's the support for the "News" screen, so it obviously attached to the side of the building that has the exit door in it.

Most interesting parts though. The panels on the walls. Those are a sort of accoustic panel. You wont really find them many other places in Disney rides except the 94 SSE rehab portions and the and 96 Universe of Energy refurbishment. In energy, they cover the mirror walls in theater 1.

Note how the structure with the door/exit sign doesn't have the panels. But those panels, as mentioned in the other pic, arc up suddenly to obscure the view of the side of that building.

That structure/building to the side has.. looking closely.. some sort of "I" bar sticking out of it (which dissapears behind the sudden arc of "new" masking). Also, sloping down from around the roof of that little building is either some sort of plate or wire going to that beam or bar.

So, what is right there next to that exit door?

And finally, the capsule/thingy. I wanted to get a better shot, but I just didn't manage it. Here's what I got.

 

[jasondiff]

beanboon's also got a pic back in post 141 of the masts supporting the screen and the exit sign. Unfortunately the acoustic material just hides the side of that exit building.

Martin, what might be helpful for a lot of people (myself included) is to do an elevation (side) view of 180top and the first section of descent showing the screens, shuttle/window remnant, red lights, etc. That would certainly help me get an idea of where things are in relation to each other.

 

[DubyooDeeDubyoo]

From Merf's pictures the EXIT sign room suddently gets taller as the ceiling goes up. I don't know what this is really but in the first pic you can just see a little metallic thing sticking up off the higher roof.

We certainly can't confirm that it's anything important or not, but I thought I'd just mention it.

 

[marni1971]

merf; thanks for the images. They show a lot; I`ll take a closer look in a mo. The exit sign and door in your pictures lead through an equipment room to staircase #5; this runs next to the core all the way down to the 28ft level. It`s door is actually around the 148ft mark; that is about 3 ft higher than the Omni track.

The last Merf photo in very useful. Worth the quick blinding! It clearly shows it would have been possible to pass the window AA, and to appear to be looking at her from the right hand side, as evident in the videos. I`d say that`s settled. I`m confident it was her window, albeit hers was smaller than the outline on the cone today. I`m also confident now that the screen shown above is before the core, "out in the open" - not attached to any 1982 struts, but suspended purely on a 1994 cable and strut system. Quite obvious looking back at all the photos from you guys! I also think it`s a front projection system; the black box on the left in the last photo in post 370 looks the right size and shape for a Barco video projector. With keystone correction it`s in the correct position for the screen.

Also, looking at the 3rd photo in post 370, there is no evidence of a large satellite support as you mention. 2 theories; it was earlier in the ride, just outside the core, placing it outside staircase #5`s door and where the news screen is, or it WAS where the 3rd photo in post 370 is looking; only suspended from above or the side. The original large satellite flash pic that surfaced a few months ago (it`s probably somewhere in the past 2 million posts of this thread, it`s also in my WDWMagic album) shows a still unknown blue/grey coloured object connected to it, coming in from the above right. How about this was it`s support and the blue was black but showed up under the camera flash? Look at the last photo in post 370 - you can just see the tops of riders infront of the camera position. This looks very similar to the same angle, though a few cars back from, the satellite flash pic.

jason; I`ll work on some elevations.

 

[Eyorefan]

I have nothing of importance to add.

I just wanted to thank everyone on this thread. This is the best ever!!! :sohappy:

 

[mousermerf]

Well, here's the closesup of the side of the "Exit door" building, showing the pole/rod/i-beam whatever is connected to it.. And I think you can see a airline-cable style rig attaching to the roofline of the building too to further support the beam, suggesting this beam stuck out of the side of the building to support some sort of prop or device that is hidden from view by the quickly and crudely erected sound proofing wall.

There's no reason for it to be in panels evenewhere else but then cut in an an irregular shape right there...

 

[Expo_Seeker40]

MUWHAHAHAAHA the satelite position changes AGAIN!

praise the almighty expo .......ok too much fun :ROFLOL:

 

[joel_maxwell]

jason; I`ll work on some elevations.

could you include (as long as it doesnt distract) where this exit sign meets staircase 5, just for orientaion purposes

 

[marni1971]

From Merf's pictures the EXIT sign room suddently gets taller as the ceiling goes up. I don't know what this is really but in the first pic you can just see a little metallic thing sticking up off the higher roof.

We certainly can't confirm that it's anything important or not, but I thought I'd just mention it.

Indeed it does. I just checked, the stairway is the lowest of the 3 tall objedts in 180top. The next step up is the top of the core, and the tallest the ascent tunnel and roof from the level below. All are side by side, across 180top, like a set of giant steps. Sadly my plans are faded at this most important part (I`ll email my source) but it looks like behind stair 5 and the core is a wall around 15ft tall, like a lip, across the entire space back there. From here the projection level continues around 180top until it gets to the ascent tunnel opening. Let me illustrate (again) shortly.

 

[marni1971]

Expo - just saw your post. I think you`re onto something there.....

Michelle wants to watch another ep of 24 on DVD... back shortly!

 

[Expo_Seeker40]

PROBLEM!!! The skeletal frame I thought was the former portion of the red light strip IS NOT IT! The red light strip was on most likely the actual space station overhang roof and near where the floating classroom scene is, unless it is the shape Marni once thought that was from beanboons first pics of the space station ceiling taken months ago.

In the flash picture you can see one of the solar panels has the red reflection in it, and a red hue is over the man sitting in the omnimover....*Perhaps Merf in a past life* .....ahh the mystery continues.....

 

[marni1971]

Right..... the new, improved orthographic projections....

Please do mention corrections. I`m also not sure of the correct slope / height of the floor belows roof behind the core. I know somewhere it gets a lot higher, out of sight, but does it rise in one go as I pictured, or does it slope up around the back of the core??

 

[marni1971]

Also, as an extra - regarding the 180top laser. Part of the `94 press release states `audience encompassing laser beams`. FYI!

 

[jasondiff]

Right..... the new, improved orthographic projections....

Please do mention corrections. I`m also not sure of the correct slope / height of the floor belows roof behind the core. I know somewhere it gets a lot higher, out of sight, but does it rise in one go as I pictured, or does it slope up around the back of the core??

Wow Martin, those are great! Nice work. I can't say for sure but from merf's pictures it looks like the door/building to stairwell 5 is much closer to the side wall, i.e. to the left in the graphic. I'm assuming I'm wrong though since you have floorplans/blueprints.

Can you put on there the earth projector and location of the lift to the hatch? If the hatch was in the center top of the sphere, it seems the lift would have to then be moved onto the core roof if it was the aerial work platform pictured by beanboon several posts ago. If it was a boom lift like you pictured earlier then it would be able to access the hatch from the roof of the ascent tunnel.

 

[Omnispace]

Thanks for the welcome. You guys are like the 180 Top Detectives!! The axonometric drawings are incredibly cool. I would have thought that the floor would have kept spiraling up around to create the ceiling of the telemetry tunnel, (or whatever it's official name is), instead of making steps. I remember seeing somewhere a picture of the structural model of Spaceship Earth and this seemed to be the case. One thing that I notice is that according to your floor plan, the Service Elevator and Stairwell 11 are opposite the center shaft from Stairwell 5 -- thus the Elevator needs to be moved one more segment clockwise around the octagon shaft.

Also, I sincerely agree that the satellite with the solar panels was inside the shaft itself. In your drawing, it would be be practically lined up with the woman in window. Excellent job, and I have been thoroughly enjoying the pics as well!! Please remember to remain seated all times while the ride is in motion!! :animwink: -dean

 

[marni1971]

Glad you like it. It`s not perfect but it`s a start. Stairwell 5`s door should be more central :lol:

I have no idea where the projector is. All I know is the rear (as you look at my diagram) raised floor is marked `projection level` on the plans. As for the lift, it looks like it`s a straight up in the air platform, not a boom, and is mobile so could literally be hidden anywhere. Even lay on it`s side on the core roof! Incidentally, the hatch isn`t dead center. It`s lined with center on an east west axis, but seems slightly more towards north than south. By slightly I mean by a few feet, perhaps the width of an Alucobond pannel, as shown in the photo in post 333 - I`d hazard a guess it`s in the missing pannel next up and to the right in that pic. Somewhere here;

 

[Omnispace]

....the Service Elevator and Stairwell 11 are opposite the center shaft from Stairwell 5 ......

Oops, that should have been Stairwell 10, not 11.

 

[Captain Hank]

If I remember correctly, the 2 projectors for the Earth effect are located approximately where the word "top" is.

 

[jasondiff]

Glad you like it. It`s not perfect but it`s a start. Stairwell 5`s door should be more central :lol:

I think I was a little confusing, what I meant was not the door itself but the actual "building" seemed more to the left, closer to the outer wall. Sorry about that.

 

[jasondiff]

Incidentally, the hatch isn`t dead center. It`s lined with center on an east west axis, but seems slightly more towards north than south. By slightly I mean by a few feet, perhaps the width of an Alucobond pannel, as shown in the photo in post 333 - I`d hazard a guess it`s in the missing pannel next up and to the right in that pic. Somewhere here;

Correct me if I'm worng but I think each of the 6 large triangles those men are standing on corresponds to four large triangles of the skin, each of which has 3 alucobond panels. Let me try to draw it out and post a graphic.

Edit: Ok, here we go. The 6 triangles I drew on this pic correspond to the 6 triangles the men are standing on in Martin's pic. That would put the hatch in the middle of one of the 6 triangles the men are standing on, not sure which one though. What do you think?