Song of the South?

GeoDonJac34

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I have been to WDW a few times, and one of my favorite rides is SM. I know the characters are from the movie Song of the South. Having never seen the film, I tried to get it through Netflix and Amazon, and as many of you know it can not be found. I am wondering, for those who have seen the movie, is there any real reason for Disney to not make this available? I would love to see it and feel I am missing out on a part of Disney.
 

wilkeliza

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I have been to WDW a few times, and one of my favorite rides is SM. I know the characters are from the movie Song of the South. Having never seen the film, I tried to get it through Netflix and Amazon, and as many of you know it can not be found. I am wondering, for those who have seen the movie, is there any real reason for Disney to not make this available? I would love to see it and feel I am missing out on a part of Disney.

The reason that has been given the most is it is racist and although it was released in several other markets until the late 80s it was never re-released in America because of the content.
 

FettFan

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I have been to WDW a few times, and one of my favorite rides is SM. I know the characters are from the movie Song of the South. Having never seen the film, I tried to get it through Netflix and Amazon, and as many of you know it can not be found. I am wondering, for those who have seen the movie, is there any real reason for Disney to not make this available? I would love to see it and feel I am missing out on a part of Disney.


Enjoy!



EDIT -- It is NOT racist! It's a movie for KIDS. They can learn all about how it was a false representation of Reconstruction Georgia when they are older.
Might as well tell them that Santa Claus is a lie too.
 

DCGC5

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Enjoy!



EDIT -- It is NOT racist! It's a movie for KIDS. They can learn all about how it was a false representation of Reconstruction Georgia when they are older.
Might as well tell them that Santa Claus is a lie too.


THANK YOU!!! Not for the movie but the point of your edit. It's a good movie.
 
I too have tried very hard to find this film but have been unable to get it. There are some clips of it on youtube though. Apparently the video has never been released in the US in its entirity due to it's questionable content regarding racism. Although it has never officially been banned, it last aired in theaters in 1986. The film's content depicts stories from the Civil War era, so clearly slavery is a main topic.
 

wilkeliza

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The racist comment wasn't my personal belief just the reason I have been told most often. The other reason I have heard was that it makes slavery seem okay and living on a plantation a good fun time when it was neither of those.
 

luv

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I saw it in the theater as a child, but all I remember is being bored and a vague image of Uncle Remus.
 

FettFan

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The racist comment wasn't my personal belief just the reason I have been told most often. The other reason I have heard was that it makes slavery seem okay and living on a plantation a good fun time when it was neither of those.

The irony of this is that Song of the South was no different from Gone With the Wind in that respect,

and yet GWTW has been released on home video what, 10 times already?
 

wilkeliza

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The irony of this is that Song of the South was no different from Gone With the Wind in that respect,

and yet GWTW has been released on home video what, 10 times already?



I'm watching SotS for the first time in a very long time (somehow my mother had a very old VHS copy so I watched it when I was a tiny one) and I haven't seen anything blatantly wrong with it so far. Honestly Tyler Perry movies cross the racism line more often than this has.

edit: Also so far a lot of this has happened in the false world of the Briar Patch so I don't understand where the reasonings came from.
 

Californian Elitist

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The problem with Song of the South is the inaccurate portrayal of African Americans during the time the story is set in. Gone with the Wind's portrayal of African Americans then is a lot more accurate.
 

Magenta Panther

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Maybe the real reason is that there are no princesses or fairies?? :D (Sneezy runs and hides)

You kid, but you may have a point. I sometimes wonder if the real reason Disney is so timid about SotS, when films like "Gone With The Wind" are so much worse in the way they depict African-Americans (there are actual black SLAVES in GWTW), is because SotS has limited merchandising potential. Today's Disney Company never passes up a chance to make a buck; if it could market Brer Rabbit the way it markets the Princesses, I bet it'd find a way to release SotS in a fashion that would offend only the most uber-sensitive, complete with disclaimers and attempts to put the characterizations in the movie in context with its historical setting and with the time the film was released.

But really, when it comes to how African-Americans are depicted by Disney...what about "Princess and the Frog"? Look how sugary and sappy Tiana's family and home life are depicted. The attempt NOT to be offensive is so overdone that it almost comes off as offensive anyway, because it's so unrealistic. I'd prefer the relatively-honest depictions of post-slavery sharecroppers in SotS than a (pardon the expression) whitewashed fairy tale as depicted in PatF. Just my opinion...
 

The Duck

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THIS is an excellent source for SOTS on DVD. I've bought several for myself and friends and their discs have a quality that some other sites lack.
Also, if you scroll down the page, there's a link for a higher quality DVD for a little extra money and I have to say that it was worth every penny! The quality was so good that I forgot that I was watching a bootleg DVD.
 

Weather_Lady

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Song of the South was not considered racist when it was made -- during a time when incorrect, idealized "former slaves wish they were all back in sweet Dixieland" portrayals were the norm. I saw the film twice as a child and what I took away from it was that Bre'r Rabbit was a delightfully naughty little bunny, and that I wished I had a nice old black man in my life who would tell me such fantastic stories. I listened to my little Disney "Bre'r Rabbit and the Tar Baby" record until the accompanying book was falling apart, and with a child's innocent viewpoint, I saw nothing offensive in it at all.

Of course, now we live in a world that is far more sophisticated, more vigilant about historical accuracy, and staunchly against characterizing anything that has to do with slavery, or even poor Reconstruction-era Southern culture in general, as amusing or positive, and this has led to a widespread feeling that "Song of the South" is, in its whitewashing of history, being insensitive or even overtly racist. (Of course, this school of criticism often overlooks the fact that any story which has been "Disney-fied" is going to lose its dark and edgy elements.) As an adult, I do understand why people find the historical rewrite that "Song of the South" presents to be troubling and even offensive, and I respect their viewpoint, but I still see the movie with a child's eyes. To me, it will always be a story about a kindly African-American man with an indomitably sunny outlook, who can spin fantastic yarns illustrating human foibles -- using animals that happen to talk and dress like poor Southerners. If I could find the film now, I'd still love to figuratively sit at his feet and take another listen.
 

ddbowdoin

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lol here we go again!

it ISN'T racist... double standard by the Disney corporation if you ask me.

Considering THE NEXT Diamond release... PETER PAN

The jist of this issue is that in 2012, when it comes to equality there is a lack of such between races. Insulting one race is a faux pas while it's okay to insult another.

NO STEREOTYPES here?
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lazyboy97o

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The reason that has been given the most is it is racist and although it was released in several other markets until the late 80s it was never re-released in America because of the content.
The film has not been released for home purchase in the US. The film did have several theatrical re-releases, the last of which was in 1986 and considered enough of a success to help justify green lighting Splash Mountain for Disneyland.
 

ddbowdoin

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Song of the South was not considered racist when it was made -- during a time when incorrect, idealized "former slaves wish they were all back in sweet Dixieland" portrayals were the norm. I saw the film twice as a child and what I took away from it was that Bre'r Rabbit was a delightfully naughty little bunny, and that I wished I had a nice old black man in my life who would tell me such fantastic stories. I listened to my little Disney "Bre'r Rabbit and the Tar Baby" record until the accompanying book was falling apart, and with a child's innocent viewpoint, I saw nothing offensive in it at all.

Of course, now we live in a world that is far more sophisticated, more vigilant about historical accuracy, and staunchly against characterizing anything that has to do with slavery, or even poor Reconstruction-era Southern culture in general, as amusing or positive, and this has led to a widespread feeling that "Song of the South" is, in its whitewashing of history, being insensitive or even overtly racist. (Of course, this school of criticism often overlooks the fact that any story which has been "Disney-fied" is going to lose its dark and edgy elements.) As an adult, I do understand why people find the historical rewrite that "Song of the South" presents to be troubling and even offensive, and I respect their viewpoint, but I still see the movie with a child's eyes. To me, it will always be a story about a kindly African-American man with an indomitably sunny outlook, who can spin fantastic yarns illustrating human foibles -- using animals that happen to talk and dress like poor Southerners. If I could find the film now, I'd still love to figuratively sit at his feet and take another listen.

100% agree...

We're sensitive about a group of people who brought from one land to another and forced to work under a horrible system...

the other group was driven from their homes, killed, mamed with disease etc etc etc

but, agh... just give em' casinos and society will be happy

I'm for equality, but for ALL people
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