Someone please save Pooh at EPCOT

drew81

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I do like the characters on the boats though as well as the band that plays on the boats. It adds a lot of kinetic energy to the park and it seems to be very popular with guests.
Those listings are on the app to appear as if there’s more characters in the park.

Magic Kingdom doesn’t list the parade/cavalcade characters on their listing.

To me, it’s bad optics.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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The current wait times at MK are -
Mickey @ Town Square - 65 minutes
Cinderella - 70 minutes
Tiana- 50 minutes
Silly sideshow - 50 minutes

(According to WDW app)
You know i actually looked at those before my other post and just now. none of them were as high as your posting here, they are all around 45min, but that could be a factor of fluctuating times throughout the day. In addition to the general posts about wait times being overstated, I will also point out that the people waiting in these lines are getting exactly what/who they want to see.

I think it also lends to the point of have you seen character who was walking around DL have a 50Min or 70Min line of people waiting to interact with them?
 

TrainsOfDisney

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For what it’s worth Mickey is at 15 minutes right now…. But I think a parade is happening.

People waiting in town square are getting the same thing…. If you are looking for a specific character at Disneyland, the character greeters can always give you tips and advice

And no I haven’t…. Of course Disneyland has way more attractions and didn’t replace an opening day attraction with a meet and greet hall so……
 

EagleScout610

These cats can PLAAAAAYYYYY
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Actually, I hear Iger had the plans to bring Pooh back on his desktop and was watching Cocaine Bear on another tab. He decided to keep bears away from people. Just ask the Country Bears
 

mousefan1972

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This is just getting bizarre now. It had a place during COVID, but why is Pooh just stranded on a hill in 95F full sun and 100ft away from guests. It makes no sense for anyone involved.

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Got to witness this in person last week. Very bizarre. At one point, Pooh looked he was doing yoga in the full sun on a 97 degree day. His handler hung out under a tree in the shade while Pooh did his calisthenics.
 

Bocabear

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Sounds like a win to me...I would rather see Disney focus on attractions and all the things that made their parks great....instead of character meet and greet factories... Long ago they would just appear and it was a special magical moment...there was never any assurance, and people back then didn't mind... Now it seems like they have created the absolute need for a character meeting....
 

Phicinfan

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Sounds like a win to me...I would rather see Disney focus on attractions and all the things that made their parks great....instead of character meet and greet factories... Long ago they would just appear and it was a special magical moment...there was never any assurance, and people back then didn't mind... Now it seems like they have created the absolute need for a character meeting....
I agree with more attractions, but I disagree with less or no meets. Do I need a formal meet and greet, nope. Would it be great to have characters roam and meet folks and have photo opportunities YES! Its part of the magic to have small kids get to walk up on Pooh or Mickey or Mary Poppins and get a hug or autograph or picture. It helps to open the fantasy even more.

However, I get how in FL its less likely to get a Pooh or heavy costume character when its 112 degrees outside.

I have to ask, didn't they used to have a Pooh Meet in UK? In Christopher Robbins room? What happened there?
 

drizgirl

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Sounds like a win to me...I would rather see Disney focus on attractions and all the things that made their parks great....instead of character meet and greet factories... Long ago they would just appear and it was a special magical moment...there was never any assurance, and people back then didn't mind... Now it seems like they have created the absolute need for a character meeting....
Don't fall for the false dichotomy. Disney can make new attractions AND have lots of character meet and greets.
 

Bocabear

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Don't fall for the false dichotomy. Disney can make new attractions AND have lots of character meet and greets.
I know this...but rather than spend the money for new attractions, they started leaning on Meet and Greets years back...even removed one of the original Dark Rides to add a meet and greet.
I think character interaction is great...but when they are adding more Meet And Greet facilities and not replacing shuttered attractions, I call Shenanigans! Sure the meet and greets are busy, but they have marketed and created that demand...while not investing in attractions that ultimately would make everyone happier...so would getting rid of Genie and Fastpass+... It has created lines where there never were lines and has made a trip to the parks a real chore with the planning and reserving necessary to have the same sort of day you had there years ago when you could go to the parks and do just about everything...
 

drizgirl

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I know this...but rather than spend the money for new attractions, they started leaning on Meet and Greets years back...even removed one of the original Dark Rides to add a meet and greet.
I think character interaction is great...but when they are adding more Meet And Greet facilities and not replacing shuttered attractions, I call Shenanigans! Sure the meet and greets are busy, but they have marketed and created that demand...while not investing in attractions that ultimately would make everyone happier...so would getting rid of Genie and Fastpass+... It has created lines where there never were lines and has made a trip to the parks a real chore with the planning and reserving necessary to have the same sort of day you had there years ago when you could go to the parks and do just about everything...
They didn't replace a dark ride with a meet and greet. They redesigned and moved it as 7DMT. We weren't getting both. Although now maybe I'm the one falling for the false dichotomy.

100% agree on FP+ though. I remember Tom Staggs taking a tour of the parks and commenting on "underused" attractions. Rather than add new attractions, they set out to purposely make those lines longer. And it had a catastrophic effect on the parks experience.
 

Bocabear

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They didn't replace a dark ride with a meet and greet. They redesigned and moved it as 7DMT. We weren't getting both. Although now maybe I'm the one falling for the false dichotomy.

100% agree on FP+ though. I remember Tom Staggs taking a tour of the parks and commenting on "underused" attractions. Rather than add new attractions, they set out to purposely make those lines longer. And it had a catastrophic effect on the parks experience.
They clearly did....
7 Dwarves coaster is not Snow White's Adventures... It has not parts of the original attraction. I like the coaster, I do, but when they tear out an existing attraction to make it a princess meet and greet, I feel that loss.
Yay they built another attraction based on Snow White...that is fine... But no reason they could not have had both. Nor is there a reason they could not have made a Princess Fairytale Hall in the new Fantasyland project.
 

drizgirl

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They clearly did....
7 Dwarves coaster is not Snow White's Adventures... It has not parts of the original attraction. I like the coaster, I do, but when they tear out an existing attraction to make it a princess meet and greet, I feel that loss.
Yay they built another attraction based on Snow White...that is fine... But no reason they could not have had both. Nor is there a reason they could not have made a Princess Fairytale Hall in the new Fantasyland project.
Well, the original plan was for the big meet and greet to be where the 7DMT is now. When that was the plan, SW was staying put. This was all part of a big revision and reshuffling. We only got 7DMT because the M/G was being shuffled over there.

No reason at all they couldn't have had both. Except that they they wouldn't. That was never in the cards. Sadly. I would have loved to have both. It was a great loss. Better keep their grubby paws off the one at DLR.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
They didn't replace a dark ride with a meet and greet. They redesigned and moved it as 7DMT. We weren't getting both. Although now maybe I'm the one falling for the false dichotomy.

No reason snow white could not have existed with the coaster too. It was happy convenient to replace it. Remember NFL was supposed to have a lot more character spots too before they pivoted.
 

brb1006

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I agree with more attractions, but I disagree with less or no meets. Do I need a formal meet and greet, nope. Would it be great to have characters roam and meet folks and have photo opportunities YES! Its part of the magic to have small kids get to walk up on Pooh or Mickey or Mary Poppins and get a hug or autograph or picture. It helps to open the fantasy even more.

However, I get how in FL its less likely to get a Pooh or heavy costume character when its 112 degrees outside.

I have to ask, didn't they used to have a Pooh Meet in UK? In Christopher Robbins room? What happened there?
Yes, the UK Pavilion actually had an indoor meet and greet location for Pooh (and occasionally Tigger and Eeyore) located at the back corner of the Pavilion.
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It was the perfect place for guests to cool off from the hot Florida sun.
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The location hasn't reopened since 2020.
 

Bocabear

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No reason snow white could not have existed with the coaster too. It was happy convenient to replace it. Remember NFL was supposed to have a lot more character spots too before they pivoted.
they pivoted because the response to what they presented was... less than stellar...
they still could have built something the size of the footprint of the Snow White dark ride and had both...Matter of fact, they should have done that...
 

Musical Mermaid

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Yes, the UK Pavilion actually had an indoor meet and greet location for Pooh (and occasionally Tigger and Eeyore) located at the back corner of the Pavilion.
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It was the perfect place for guests to cool off from the hot Florida sun.
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The location hasn't reopened since 2020.
My nieces met Pooh there in late 2019 and it was a huge highlight for them during that trip, even the one who claimed she didn't like furry characters. I wonder why it hasn't reopened.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Not to go back to a new fantasyland debate but the idea that this expansion had to choose between keeping a classic dark ride and a meet and greet is definition of the problems at WDW.

This is the most visited theme park in the world and yet they acted like they were limited in size, scope and budget on an expansion that should have been FILLED with attractions.
 

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