SOARIN (different versions)

[Goofyernmost]

I seem to be busting on you a lot lately, but I wouldn't say "a lot" of CGI exists in the old one. A couple of items, like the golf ball and maybe the hang glider. But most of it is pure scenery. I also have a hard time with the CGI transitions in the current show. It really takes me out of it all to see an elephant throwing up a big snootful of dust at just the right moment.

I would agree, not a lot, or at least not a lot that we know of, but, to me, it doesn't matter. With the old one there was no transition at all and that was a complaint at the time, if I recall. I look at it as entertainment, I am not looking for factual things. If a plane, bird, elephant or polar bear adds to the movie I'm absolutely OK, with it. WDW is a haven of Fantasy, why would we be surprised that we might find fantasy within its attractions. I love that type of transition. I'm smart enough to know that it isn't really happening, but, I am impressed with how smoothly they made it seem like it was. What's wrong with that? If I want actual facts I will go to a science museum. Disney is for fun, adventure and laughter. I don't want logical life type experiences. If I want to know how wild animals would react... I'd go to Africa and fly low over a herd of Elephants.

 

[danyoung56]

My problem with it is that the entire attraction is all about seeing incredible sights around the world. When this is interrupted by computer generated imagery, that breaks for 4th wall for me. I'm no longer looking at video of cool iconic images from around the world - I'm looking at stuff done in a computer. No matter how well it's done, it's still a fake, a lie. For me it's not a good thing.

 

[Tom 55]

There are a lot of rides that I have wondered why not have slightly different story lines? Something different each time. Especially the ones that are all CG.

 

[OliveMcFly]

Yeah, there was a lot of discussion early on about this distortion, some folks saying that it totally ruined the experience, while others (like me) noticed it without being bothered by it.

Hopefully it's something they're aware of and are able to fix.

 

[danyoung56]

The only way to fix it is to either un-curve the screen (unlikely) or re-shoot with elements that don't have large straight lines in them. If you think back to the original, it was all scenic - very little architecture at all. The one shot I can think of that might have been a problem - the Los Angeles skyline - was moving so fast that it was never a problem.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

My problem with it is that the entire attraction is all about seeing incredible sights around the world. When this is interrupted by computer generated imagery, that breaks for 4th wall for me. I'm no longer looking at video of cool iconic images from around the world - I'm looking at stuff done in a computer. No matter how well it's done, it's still a fake, a lie. For me it's not a good thing.

That's exactly it!

I never did go to the arctic and saw a polar bear, or whale. Nor did I soar over elephants roaming the African plain. You did not visit the wonders of the world. The magic is not there.

 

[danyoung56]

And they did a really good job of the whale, and the polar bear, and the elephants. But I'm looking at a 3D computer generated image, not real nature.

 

[Fox&Hound]

I'm a bigger fan of 'California' but I do enjoy the Paris scene in this new version. A few weeks ago when I was on we were seated in the first row on the right and I noticed the images were warped. The Pyramids and the Eiffel Tower were curved at the top of the screen. I never noticed an issue with the previous show. Anyone else ever see this?

This is why I do not enjoy the new one. Both times I rode it and objects like the Eiffel tower were significantly warped. It really took me out of the moment. And I miss the oranges....

 

[amjt660]

And they did a really good job of the whale, and the polar bear, and the elephants. But I'm looking at a 3D computer generated image, not real nature.

I will add my voice to this one as well
I realize the hand glider and the golf ball were fake but in the original it felt like I was seeing the real California.
On this one every scene feels fake - every transition is a joke
First time I rode it make me angry - the second and third time I was laughing at how stupid it was to think I would actually see anything like that in the real world
Because it isn't the real world - not even close
When I ride spaceship earth I believe most of the scenes in history might have existed just like they are being depicted.
Soarin is now something I will laugh at - not with.
Very disappointed that they focused so heavily on transitions and resulted in a sub par experience (at least for me).

End of rant

Max

 

[danyoung56]

I have to add that I'm not angry - I really do enjoy the new version. But those transitions are just wrong.

 

[thomas998]

Don't want to burst your bubble, but, a lot of the old one was CGI enhanced unless you think that golf ball was really hit that accurately.

It was.... they had to do 147 takes over several days to get it just right.

 

[graphite1326]

The only way to fix it is to either un-curve the screen (unlikely) or re-shoot with elements that don't have large straight lines in them. If you think back to the original, it was all scenic - very little architecture at all. The one shot I can think of that might have been a problem - the Los Angeles skyline - was moving so fast that it was never a problem.

The opening with the Golden Gate Bridge was somewhat distorted. Something I always noticed but chose not to let it bother me. I like the opening of the new version much better. It's just one of those "wow" scenes.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It was.... they had to do 147 takes over several days to get it just right.

Not saying that's not true, but, could you reveal your source for that information?

 

[thomas998]

Not saying that's not true, but, could you reveal your source for that information?

It isn't true.... that was a joke. It was clearly a special effect... Otherwise how would they have been able to get the hidden Mickey on the ball.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

There are three theaters. I wish they would devote one to California and play classic Soarin'.

Soarin' Classic

Diet Soarin' (No smells, less rocking)

Vanilla Soarin' (Soft serve ice cream up charge)

and Soarin' Zero (which would just be some chairs out front for those who don't want to ride)

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Soarin' Classic

Diet Soarin' (No smells, less rocking)

Vanilla Soarin' (Soft serve ice cream up charge)

and Soarin' Zero (which would just be some chairs out front for those who don't want to ride)

Snorin' (comfy chairs out front for those who don't want to ride)

Snortin' (the Colombia pavilion ride)

Saorin' (Cranium Command II: the dyslexic brian)

 

[Goofyernmost]

It isn't true.... that was a joke. It was clearly a special effect... Otherwise how would they have been able to get the hidden Mickey on the ball.

I wouldn't have asked if I was sure you were just kidding, even though I thought you were. Please use a smiley when you are joking.

 

[graphite1326]

It isn't true.... that was a joke. It was clearly a special effect... Otherwise how would they have been able to get the hidden Mickey on the ball.

It is true. I filmed it from a tower we temporarily built. Arnold Palmer was hitting the ball. He actually calculated how he could hit the ball with the Mickey facing me when it reached my destination. He did it in one take but the crew insisted we take more takes to be sure. I had black and blue marks all over my body. HONEST.

 

[graphite1326]

This is why I do not enjoy the new one. Both times I rode it and objects like the Eiffel tower were significantly warped. It really took me out of the moment. And I miss the oranges....

Maybe, since I wear bifocals and I see the distortion all the time anyway this doesn't bother me.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It is true. I filmed it from a tower we temporarily built. Arnold Palmer was hitting the ball. He actually calculated how he could hit the ball with the Mickey facing me when it reached my destination. He did it in one take but the crew insisted we take more takes to be sure. I had black and blue marks all over my body. HONEST.

R i g h t! Ok, well have a nice day and I hope those black an blue marks heal soon.