So, You Want to be an Imagineer Season 14: Greatest Hits (Official Hub Thread)

[TheOriginalTiki]

With such a talented cast -- I think the elimination rules need to be fine tuned to ensure that this type of situation doesn't keep happening where subjectivity decides the entire game. I mean, naturally there will be some form of it -- but having a defined rubric for eliminations could help immensely.

Just imho, I don't think that quantity of brainstorming should be a factor, or if it is, at least not a primary factor. Briefly looking over Younger's thread -- we are talking about one person who posted twice...once to say good job and another to say i don't think this will work. Then we have another who posted once to sign up for art and say good job. It's 2 posts to 1 post over 4 days. That really can't be the determining factor.

Quality of brainstorming however could be a factor. For instance, someone could in one post provide the idea that defines the whole project, compared to someone like me who might post 50 times, but 30 of those are memes And then definitely the quality of the finished product that you produce.

And if ever it's a toss up, then what your past accomplishments in the challenges should factor in. Have you done great things or kinda skirted by. Stuff like that. I respect the judges' decision though despite knowing how much of a talent MCParradox is on the forum. You're an awesome imagineer -- don't forget that!

We'll definitely keep all this in mind. This is the first season we've been nominating people as judges since season six. You're right, with such a talented cast we need to keep things as objective as possible. Really the one thing that came down between Parradox vs. Harrington, as I said, is that we felt Harrington deserved at least a one round grace period after entering the game past the first project. You might argue and say he got a reprieve from the first project as well, but this is Harrington's first time playing since season ten and he's jumping into a team that's already established a rapore with each other in the first project. It might not be the popular decision, but I feel it's the right one and I'm sure MEW can back me up on that.

We definitely look at the quality of brainstorming for sure. If someone contributes the idea that defines the project, that will most likely give you a pass right there as it's a pivotal part of how the project came together. If we see someone who's posting a lot but only really saying fringe stuff like "good job!", "I like that idea!" etc. then we'll definitely consider eliminating them over someone who posted less but with more substance to the final project. As you said with a cast this large it's going to be a very difficult road, and one I'm SURE will be filled with unpopular eliminations just by default since everyone in the cast is a power player in their own way. The only thing we as judges can do is take all the feedback you guys provide and use it to fine-tune our judgement moving forward.

 

[spacemt354]

I agree to an extent. I think that a lot of the problem stems from the problems we were having in the first round. It's definitely lead to an unorthodox judging style, and there are definitely kinks to work out, but I think it's starting to get to a place where it works well.

I definitely agree with everything you've said, though.

That is very true because the entire dynamic shifted from players deciding to judges -- so I respect there are still some kinks. I also think the ambiguity of the project tied into it a little too...there are some things I still don't understand about it haha, but we move on. I'm sure it'll work out in the end!

 

[TheOriginalTiki]

On a more fun note, see my avatar for the traditional tease at the next project. Let the speculation begin!

 

[StevenU]

We'll definitely keep all this in mind. This is the first season we've been nominating people as judges since season six. You're right, with such a talented cast we need to keep things as objective as possible. Really the one thing that came down between Parradox vs. Harrington, as I said, is that we felt Harrington deserved at least a one round grace period after entering the game past the first project. You might argue and say he got a reprieve from the first project as well, but this is Harrington's first time playing since season ten and he's jumping into a team that's already established a rapore with each other in the first project. It might not be the popular decision, but I feel it's the right one and I'm sure MEW can back me up on that.

We definitely look at the quality of brainstorming for sure. If someone contributes the idea that defines the project, that will most likely give you a pass right there as it's a pivotal part of how the project came together. If we see someone who's posting a lot but only really saying fringe stuff like "good job!", "I like that idea!" etc. then we'll definitely consider eliminating them over someone who posted less but with more substance to the final project. As you said with a cast this large it's going to be a very difficult road, and one I'm SURE will be filled with unpopular eliminations just by default since everyone in the cast is a power player in their own way. The only thing we as judges can do is take all the feedback you guys provide and use it to fine-tune our judgement moving forward.

He advanced past the first project automatically while we all had to do work to advance, and then gets a pass in the second? That's two free passes.

Happy to be here in project 3. I don't want to get caught off guard with an elimination is all. Thanks for responding earlier even though I don't agree with your decision.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

On a more fun note, see my avatar for the traditional tease at the next project. Let the speculation begin!

Is that a manikan in a tiny Main Street Theater box office teasing the ride based on a bad movie being the next round?

 

[TheOriginalTiki]

Is that a manikan in a tiny Main Street Theater box office teasing the ride based on a bad movie being the next round?

...Perhaps!

 

[MANEATINGWREATH]

Again, this is the first season in almost ten years, if not more than ten years that the judges are in charge of the elimination. Relatively speaking, this is a "new" process for us. At the beginning of the season, this was not the case, but given the circumstances at the time, we had to make the switch...

I appreciate everyone's patience. This is a step-by-step process that still needs some work. I promise we'll figure it out. Just know that in a cast of 20 AWESOME players, it is incredibly difficult to make such decisions. We don't want to see anyone go. Everyone is really pulling their weight and contributing some great stuff. It's not an easy job.

 

[The Excavator]

Please eliminate me in place of the prior elimination to alleviate whatever the situation is regarding last project. I didn't do my job, and in this challenge I won't have any time to contribute. I feel guilty advancing while doing nothing. Thanks for the time and to my team.

 

[MCParradox]

Please eliminate me in place of the prior elimination to alleviate whatever the situation is regarding last project. I didn't do my job, and in this challenge I won't have any time to contribute. I feel guilty advancing while doing nothing. Thanks for the time and to my team.

Please don't. It's completely fair that I should be the one to go. I didn't pull my weight with the brainstorming - I simply didn't have any ideas for either prompt, and it's true that I was using maps and artwork as a way of offering a contribution to the team. I too am falling under increasing time constraints; I barely had time to contribute to this last project (hence my only input was along the lines of "I like that idea"), and I'll have even less time this coming week. I completely respect the judges decision, though I'm honored that people would contest my elimination. I'll be sticking around, and I'll get involved in other projects, where hopefully I'll have some more inspiration than I did this time round! All the best to Team Younger, I'm sure you'll get a win soon!

 

[StevenU]

Please don't. It's completely fair that I should be the one to go. I didn't pull my weight with the brainstorming - I simply didn't have any ideas for either prompt, and it's true that I was using maps and artwork as a way of offering a contribution to the team. I too am falling under increasing time constraints; I barely had time to contribute to this last project (hence my only input was along the lines of "I like that idea"), and I'll have even less time this coming week. I completely respect the judges decision, though I'm honored that people would contest my elimination. I'll be sticking around, and I'll get involved in other projects, where hopefully I'll have some more inspiration than I did this time round! All the best to Team Younger, I'm sure you'll get a win soon!

I don't think you should have been eliminated. harrington should have. Please come back! Your art is so cool!

 

[spacemt354]

Please eliminate me in place of the prior elimination to alleviate whatever the situation is regarding last project. I didn't do my job, and in this challenge I won't have any time to contribute. I feel guilty advancing while doing nothing. Thanks for the time and to my team.

Last round was tough for everyone. Don't worry about the job, it happens. We'd love you to stick around though on the team, even in a limited role... anything helps. And your ideas help our projects a lot (such as the Courage Halloween Maze)

 

[The Excavator]

Please don't. It's completely fair that I should be the one to go. I didn't pull my weight with the brainstorming - I simply didn't have any ideas for either prompt, and it's true that I was using maps and artwork as a way of offering a contribution to the team. I too am falling under increasing time constraints; I barely had time to contribute to this last project (hence my only input was along the lines of "I like that idea"), and I'll have even less time this coming week. I completely respect the judges decision, though I'm honored that people would contest my elimination. I'll be sticking around, and I'll get involved in other projects, where hopefully I'll have some more inspiration than I did this time round! All the best to Team Younger, I'm sure you'll get a win soon!

Last round was tough for everyone. Don't worry about the job, it happens. We'd love you to stick around though on the team, even in a limited role... anything helps. And your ideas help our projects a lot (such as the Courage Halloween Maze)

Thanks, but it's fine. I've tried the last two projects but been nominated both times for elimination. It's only a matter of time before I am. I guess I'm not cut out for these kind of competitions. Thanks again.

 

[spacemt354]

I guess I'm not cut out for these kind of competitions.

No -- don't say that about yourself. Time just isn't on your side right now. I've seen you play ever since The House Cup and you definitely have the skill.

If you'd like to leave, we will miss you. But if you'd like to stay, you're more than welcome. Don't lose faith in yourself though. If not this, there are many other areas on the forum to explore. You did the One Sentence Contest last year which is still going on, which might fit your schedule if you're busy!

 

[TheOriginalTiki]

Folks, we understand that not everyone was happy about the decision to eliminate Parradox, but when the guy himself comes in to defend the judges and say it was the right choice on our end I think at that point it's time we all take a collective breath and move on. Angels, were not going to have nominations for elimination anymore because we don't want anyone feeling singled out like you do right now. I keep repeating this...EVERY person in this cast is a strong presence. If you truly want to leave and don't feel you have anything left to contribute that'll be your choice...but I can tell you it WON'T bring Parradox back, it will simply count as the first of this round's double elimination. That's your choice but I think I speak for pretty much everyone when I say we don't want you walking away like that. There's still A LOT of game left to be played.

Again, we've forgone nominations going forward in favor of being able to hand-pick a person to eliminate based on everyone's final contributions. I think is is a more than fair way to go about issues people have been having. Instead of the nomination acting as a "warning", you simply have until the project gets handed in to make your contributions. Really I believe this is more fair than we've done it in past seasons with the nomination process because as has been pointed out with nominations, some times a person will be nominated who ends up making a late contribution to the project that really ties it together. We hope to take away that factor with this new system.

 

[StevenU]

I think I'm going to play another game, I don't like this anymore. Are there any other games on imagineering I can try?

 

[JokersWild]

I think I'm going to play another game, I don't like this anymore. Are there any other games on imagineering I can try?

You're kidding right? You don't like an elimination, so you jump ship? That's far worse than the actual eliminations, frankly. Do what you want, but I implore you to try actually playing the game rather than protest the results....

 

[TheOriginalTiki]

I think I'm going to play another game, I don't like this anymore. Are there any other games on imagineering I can try?

I feel absolutely terrible about this whole situation. Please, tell me what I'm doing wrong, and how we can fix it. All we've ever wanted to do is have a relaxed, comforting atmosphere here. I feel absolutely HORRIBLE that I've driven you to quit @StevenU. I don't have any friends in real life, so I'm sorry if my personality comes off as blunt. I guess I'm just a terrible person.

Folks, I'm seriously considering just shutting the game down if were going to have nothing but hurt feelings come of it.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

I feel absolutely terrible about this whole situation. Please, tell me what I'm doing wrong, and how we can fix it. All we've ever wanted to do is have a relaxed, comforting atmosphere here. I feel absolutely HORRIBLE that I've driven you to quit @StevenU. I don't have any friends in real life, so I'm sorry if my personality comes off as blunt. I guess I'm just a terrible person.

Folks, I'm seriously considering just shutting the game down if were going to have nothing but hurt feelings come of it.

You're not a terrible person. It is just a lot of our first competition like this. So, when the board in general is very open and welcoming, it is weird to adjust to an elimination based game. I personally really like that added level of excitement and I'm sure many others do too. Some people may not and are realizing that as it is happening. After the first few prompt, the drama over eliminations should die down.

 

[spacemt354]

I feel absolutely terrible about this whole situation. Please, tell me what I'm doing wrong, and how we can fix it. All we've ever wanted to do is have a relaxed, comforting atmosphere here. I feel absolutely HORRIBLE that I've driven you to quit @StevenU. I don't have any friends in real life, so I'm sorry if my personality comes off as blunt. I guess I'm just a terrible person.

Folks, I'm seriously considering just shutting the game down if were going to have nothing but hurt feelings come of it.

Don't take it as an insult to yourself, please.

Pi said it very well...and I'll just expand that this competition is quite a commitment and a more frenetic pace than most other outlets on here. Especially having so many new people, and not having a lot of high stakes elimination experience, it's a combination that hopefully will be resolved as the game goes on.

@StevenU -- I wish you the best. As I told Angels, (Pi some free advertising ) I really would recommend the One Sentence Comp before jumping back into these bigger competitions to get experience. That might help this going forward. It's non-elimination and designing Disney projects.

 

[TheOriginalTiki]

Don't take it as an insult to yourself, please.

Pi said it very well...and I'll just expand that this competition is quite a commitment and a more frenetic pace than most other outlets on here. Especially having so many new people, and not having a lot of high stakes elimination experience, it's a combination that hopefully will be resolved as the game goes on.

@StevenU -- I wish you the best. As I told Angels, (Pi some free advertising ) I really would recommend the One Sentence Comp before jumping back into these bigger competitions to get experience. That might help this going forward. It's non-elimination and designing Disney projects.

I don't take it as an insult to myself, not at all. The opposite in fact. I'm very worried that we've insulted others by how we've phrased certain things in the past two rounds. Were not shutting the game down, I can assure you of that. I'm sorry I was so hasty to even mention something like that. I do genuinely worry that as the game goes on and the eliminations become more and more high stakes it'll lead to more hurt feelings, but obviously the vast majority of you are really enjoying the game so it's a risk I'm willing to take.

If @Angels and Disney's and @StevenU are truly done, then consider this round a non-elimination for the rest of you. If either of them wants to come back after thinking it through, the door will be open for the rest of the round.