so what was the BIG OCT 1 announment?

DisneyChik17

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Public Relations 101...you never make a major announcement on a day when something major is already happening.

Very true. If something is important, as the 25th celebration was, you don't want to pull away from it. The focus should be on the event you are celebrating.

EXAMPLE: You are having your engagement party and you announce that you are also expecting a child. Not too smart if you want people to celebrate your engagement, not your with child-ness.
 

sanctumsolitude

Active Member
Iger will be discussing 4th quarter results on November 8th. While announcements may be made before then, I would guess that November 8th will be the big day.

But that is just a guess.
 

Enderikari

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Public Relations 101...you never make a major announcement on a day when something major is already happening.

Without going into the nuts and bolts of it, this is far from Public Relations 101. First of all, media announcements about upcoming attractions/events/etc.. fall under marketing, not Public Relations. Secondly, depending on the announcement, a lot of the time you DO want to ride the wave of a major event to bring recognition to your message.

So, there is your PR 101, good luck with classes
 

wickedfan07

Member
I was told that it will stay up for 30 days . Then we were told that it will stay up for 90 days. I think it should stay for a year. There is really nothing in the spot that it is in anymore.

I sure hope it stays open for a year or longer. What's the rush to take it down anyway? They spent some money to put it together, why rush to tear it down in less than a year? I thought I heard somewhere that the 25th anniversary signs were probably going to be up for a year to 15 months anyway. If the signs are staying up and the IllumiNations finale was a one night gig, this exhibit would be the only other way to still celebrate the 25th in the park. If the signs are staying up for about 15 months, that would have them coming down with the (current) end of the YOMD January 1, 2009. I guess it would make sense to remove everything all at once.

Here's an idea about the lack of an announcement yesterday: Disney knew about the fan-led Celebration 25, and pretty much planned their own celebration because of it. The last thing they needed was to anger their Epcot fans on Oct. 1 by using the rededication ceremony as a way to promote anything to with YOMD or the rest of the resort. An announcement about Epcot, SSE or something related might have been kind of appropriate. Disney made the right choice by having YOMD take over Good Morning America and by allowing Epcot-fans to celebrate the park's milestone without listening to a bunch of marketing mumbo-jumbo. In this case, "riding the wave" would not have been a good choice.
 

sconti

Member
Without going into the nuts and bolts of it, this is far from Public Relations 101. First of all, media announcements about upcoming attractions/events/etc.. fall under marketing, not Public Relations. Secondly, depending on the announcement, a lot of the time you DO want to ride the wave of a major event to bring recognition to your message.

So, there is your PR 101, good luck with classes

Just so know, Public Relations is a division of Marketing. I own my own business. Have owned two others. And, understand a little bit about Marketing. Thanks. All set with the good luck with classes comment. BTW, I'm five years older than you, so settle down there smartie pants with your wise cracks.
 

JEANYLASER

Well-Known Member
I can't believed the villain kingdom! And where is of the location of the fifth park. What is The Villain kingdom is? Please!
 

Champion

New Member
Just so know, Public Relations is a division of Marketing. I own my own business. Have owned two others. And, understand a little bit about Marketing. Thanks. All set with the good luck with classes comment. BTW, I'm five years older than you, so settle down there smartie pants with your wise cracks.

No matter what you've done, his view on marketing is far more correct than yours.
 

goofyfan13

Well-Known Member
I was told that it will stay up for 30 days . Then we were told that it will stay up for 90 days. I think it should stay for a year. There is really nothing in the spot that it is in anymore.

I'm hoping that they exhibit goes the way of OMD. I mean, I doubt they have anything really planned for that space, so why not keep up a nice location for a trip down memory lane?
 

EPCOT_1138

New Member
I agree, it must have been a magical day in EPCOT! :wave:
It would have been nice to hear of things to come (like the imagination pavillion) or even what to expect on SSE. I know people kept saying things will be announced on Oct 1st. Hopefully, there will be a huge announcement soon. Has anyone heard any news on SSE or any new rides/rehabs?

Screamscape reported yesterday that there is a rumored delay and SSE won't open until December.
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
Just so know, Public Relations is a division of Marketing. I own my own business. Have owned two others. And, understand a little bit about Marketing. Thanks. All set with the good luck with classes comment. BTW, I'm five years older than you, so settle down there smartie pants with your wise cracks.

Reality doesn't care whether or not you believe it, and age is no replacement for experience. Any company that considers PR a division of marketing really should look into getting outside PR help, because they obviously are a little confused. I can recommend some good firms out of Georgia if you need help.
 

sconti

Member
Reality doesn't care whether or not you believe it, and age is no replacement for experience. Any company that considers PR a division of marketing really should look into getting outside PR help, because they obviously are a little confused. I can recommend some good firms out of Georgia if you need help.

Public Relations is a function/division of a marketing plan, marketing strategy, marketing department, etc. This is a fact. It's not arguable. Some companies do elect to use outside agencies for their PR, but it IS a function/divison of marketing.
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
Public Relations is a function/division of a marketing plan, marketing strategy, marketing department, etc. This is a fact. It's not arguable. Some companies do elect to use outside agencies for their PR, but it IS a function/divison of marketing.

Any company that chooses to make Public Relations a part of its Marketing Division is not using Public Relations effectively. This is a fact, anybody who has studied Public Relations, anybody who makes any effort to sway public opinion in a positive manner towards a corporate entity more than a product or event, anyone who uses PR as a tool for improving said public opinion in a crisis, knows this.

If a company wants to make it a part of their Marketing strategy, then that is there perogitive. Public Relations should work with Marketing to increase marketing's effectiveness. But it should also work with the executives in the company, it should work with point of sales, it should be incorporated throughout a company in order to ensure that it is able to function properly. Just because some short-sighted business owners don't recognize this, doesn't mean that that isn't what PR is designed for.

Those are your facts, sir.

edit - I figure I'll throw in a few more facts, or defintions of PR from my recently dusted off college textbooks...

"Public Relations is a management function which tabulates public attitudes, defines the policies, procedures and interest of an organization followed by executing a program of action to earn public understanding and acceptance."
(Edward Bernays)

"Public Relations is a set of management, supervisory, and technical functions that foster an organization's ability to strategically listen to, appreciate, and respond to those persons whose mutually beneficial relationships with the organization are necessary if it is to achieve its missions and values."
(Robert Heath)

You said you wanted PR 101, well here it is, free of charge
 

Beauty_Belle

New Member
Screamscape reported yesterday that there is a rumored delay and SSE won't open until December.

I just heard that. Thank you so much, wonder if there is any truth to it or when Disney will announce a delay. I wonder what's going on in there....Curious minds want to know!
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
The big announcement is that the YOAMD has been extended...INDEFINITLY

Ghostbuster, that WOULD be an awesome announcement, I would be so stoked. Have you seen the prizes for next year? A night on Castaway Cay as your own Private Island? Soaring above Epcot in a Spaceship Earth shaped balloon? An exclusive character breakfast on Main Street with over 35 characters to yourself? Keep it coming Disney
 

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