So they have out so many fast passes...

stevehousse

stevehousse

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I could either see this as a ride break down situation or a computer glitch that maybe did give out too many FPs, who knows? This is not a normal situation that's for sure!

Please keep us in the loop if anything else likes this happens during your trip! Would be very interesting...
 
Graham9

Graham9

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I am shaking my head in utter despair with what I'm reading.....

Soooo...If I book a trip to WDW, and then when it comes time to go - or at least 60 days beforehand, I find out that every single FP+ has been taken, does that mean I won't be able to go on anything? In that instance, can I cancel my booking and get my money back - after all, it would be pointless showing up with every show and ride pre-booked. Any future Disney trips will involve flying 4,000 miles, paying full ticket price for a park that is virtually full, even if at the time of opening, no one is actually in the park.

Will we, for example, see a big sign at the gates of Magic Kingdom during morning rope drop saying "Park Full today, all FP+'s taken - no attractions available", and then go back to the hotel in the vain hope that there will be a single ride open the next day we can go on?

Perhaps there will be a special travellers ticket where someone who has no reservations can hop from one park to the next with the sole purpose of seeing if there is a slot of anything is available. "Sorry sir, all the FP+'s for Magic Kingdom are taken, but if you can get over to Epcot quickly, there is one empty seat on Soarin' in three days time at 03:21am......sorry, it's just been taken. Come back tomorrow and see if you can reserve a FP+ and at the same time get two others you don't want or ask for. Oh by the way, when you do manage to get a FP+, please keep an eye on it, because we are likely to change it without telling you so chances are you'll miss it anyway."

We have already decided to give WDW a miss this year for various reasons, but the tipping point was our wonderful Magical Experience (That should be "Nightmare") last time with these poisonous Magic Bands and FP+'s.

I am quite sure someone at Universal /Islands of Adventure is having a really good laugh at this. I can imagine one of their management meetings - "Ok guys, we made a mistake investing millions into Diagon Alley and even Hogsmede in IoA. All we have to do it wait long enough and watch Disney go out of business because some idiot came up with this Magic Band/FP idea, which no one wanted, and their attendances have gone through the floor."
 
DManRightHere

DManRightHere

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MrNonacho said:
Both sides are a mix. One side alone can't handle all the FPs coming back. Remember the typical ratio is 80% Fastpass, 20% Standby. Splitting it 50/50 doesn't cover it.
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Really? I always assumed it was the other way around. I'll have to pay more attention next time we go.
 
scoobygirl39541

scoobygirl39541

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I think people are overreacting a tad. Rides go down and it causes a back up. The same thing happened with old FP. I experienced FP+ twice already and I'm liking it more and more. It's already way better than the old system and they're constantly fixing the bugs.

The "long" FP+ line is usually due to bands not working, a tech problem, or general guest confusion. They're working on the tech issues and its improving. I really don't think FP+ is the mortal enemy here. Sometimes things just happen.
 
jlsHouston

jlsHouston

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scoobygirl39541 said:
I think people are overreacting a tad. Rides go down and it causes a back up. The same thing happened with old FP. I experienced FP+ twice already and I'm liking it more and more. It's already way better than the old system and they're constantly fixing the bugs.

The "long" FP+ line is usually due to bands not working, a tech problem, or general guest confusion. They're working on the tech issues and its improving. I really don't think FP+ is the mortal enemy here. Sometimes things just happen.
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Well I've only experienced it once and that was in conjunction with legacy still running. SO while I liked the feature of sitting in my hotel room and picking some FP's from my laptop, I KNOW I wouldn't like standing in a 10 minute line at queue's at the parks to do so.
I honestly have to reserve judgment on FP+ this year. I only go to the resorts when it is busy. Mu concern since it rolled out in testing last year is how it would stand up with crowds. So I will be there over Spring Break and again in August. High crowd times. If FP+ can put me through a line in 10 minutes or less on a true E ticket ride, I will not feel shafted by the new system, because I was never a park commando who could burn through 3 or more FP's in a day over multiple parks. My DD on the other hand was moaning in November about the limit of 3 FP's, the tiers at EPCOT and HS, and the FP's only available in one park per day.
I think those are still legitimate gripes.
 
jlsHouston

jlsHouston

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MrNonacho said:
Both sides are a mix. One side alone can't handle all the FPs coming back. Remember the typical ratio is 80% Fastpass, 20% Standby. Splitting it 50/50 doesn't cover it.
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Really? I had no idea...I would have thought the mix would have been a much higher percent in standby. It just boggles my brain trying to figure out how management figures out capacity in lines for allocation of FP's....
 
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Mouse_Trap

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MrNonacho said:
Both sides are a mix. One side alone can't handle all the FPs coming back. Remember the typical ratio is 80% Fastpass, 20% Standby. Splitting it 50/50 doesn't cover it.
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Really? My perception that it was probably close to that flipped around. That's only from casual observation of the numbers entering the different lines though.
 
MrNonacho

MrNonacho

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The ratio often tips more in favor of Standby if there just aren't that many Fastpasses coming back, but the standard method when there's a sustained Fastpass line is to send one party from Standby and then 4 times that amount from Fastpass. It can go as high as 10x if the FP line gets backed up.
 
Dwarful

Dwarful

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I am waiting to give final judgment until we experience it this June. However, we always used more than 3 FP's and the Tiers at HS and Epcot have me disappointed to say the least...but we will see how it goes before I get upset. I will say, aside from a school band trip that is already planned for 2015, if this trip ends up being an endless line of wait times with only 3 FP's we will probably be visiting 'the other' parks down the road and CA.
 
jlsHouston

jlsHouston

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Dwarful said:
I am waiting to give final judgment until we experience it this June. However, we always used more than 3 FP's and the Tiers at HS and Epcot have me disappointed to say the least...but we will see how it goes before I get upset. I will say, aside from a school band trip that is already planned for 2015, if this trip ends up being an endless line of wait times with only 3 FP's we will probably be visiting 'the other' parks down the road and CA.
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I see this as the test year too.
 
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PHS79

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Three familys that we are friends with just got back from WDW in the last 3 weeks. Two of the familys didn't use FPs at all, and said that the stand by times weren't bad and didn't wait more than 45 mins for anything other than Test Track and Soarin'. The other said that they used their 3 FP+ each day and never waited more than 10 mins in a FP line, they also had the same standby line experience as the other 2 familys. Granted the end of January and pretty much all of February are considered slow months.

Hopefully we will have the same experience when we go back in 11 months.
 
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Disneyfamily4

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We are definitely screwed. There have been about 25 posts in the last 2 weeks, regarding fast pass lines being over 40 minutes. Every single time it gets posted, a cast member comes in and says the ride must have broken down, as if there is no way fast pass + could be the culprit. So we are either screwed, because fast pass + has been making the ride longer, or because so many rides are now breaking down all of the sudden.
 

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