Smoking areas GONE starting may 1st Pinned so people can still see the announcement.

[LAKid53]

At the MK, the dead-end walkway towards GF.

Which would be a good spot before a smoker enters the park. But not so after that.

 

[King Panda 77]

Figures....

 

[aliceismad]

Double that, the main difference may be reports of higher smoking rate in lower income brackets vs higher incomes needed to afford a Disney vacation in the first place.

https://www.americashealthrankings.org/explore/annual/measure/Smoking/state/ALL

That's interesting. I wonder why their numbers are so different from the CDC's (which I corrected was actually 14% ).

Also, slightly off topic, do they really still have smoking rooms at some airports? I remember sitting in one in Atlanta as an underaged smoker. I haven't seen one in years that was still in use.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Many of us ARE talking with experience seeing this first hand. You aren't.

Once again. They aren't banning smoking because it's culturally dead. They are banning smoking because they don't want to deal with medical and legalized recreational marijuana. It's not hard to see why they're doing this when they had no issue for over 50 years offering smoking sections.

I'm personally surprised Disneyland didn't try and ban them a long time ago.

So we can all go on our soapbox and express our feelings about smoking, but I'm pretty sure Disney isn't doing this because they care you're getting second hand smoke and that smoking kills people and that smoking is "dead" (it just isn't; take a walk around Manhattan sometime ... you'll smell both; no one cares and smokes where they want and it's not enforced, you have people deliberately smoking in front of a hotel that says "NO SMOKING" ...)

You think this is about marijuana? The “great evil” of the pearl clutches?

No...not at all.

This is about numbers. Far more people are repulsed by smoking than tolerate it now...that’s just a 40 year trend.

Repulsion leads to more economic hesitation.

This is about profits...and profits flow along the path of lesser residtence.

With all due respect...it doesn’t matter what goes on in the smoking sections anymore.

As much as it did matter that we couldn’t fill the 3 outta 33 smoking buildings at Caribbean 20 years ago.

 

[DisneyFreak]

...do they really want all those people going in and out of the front gate all day?

Plus this is going to be everyone's first impression of walking into the parks. Depending on how far these smoking areas are outside the gates, people are going to be standing in line waiting to get in and having to smell cigarette smoke. Are they going to put them by the bus terminals so the smoke smell blends with the bus exhaust?

 

[LAKid53]

Have you ever BEEN in one of those boxes? Even as a smoker it's nauseating. I'd take my chances outside (something you can't do at airports). Besides, what's inside - must be vented outside.

Florida law requires containment and ventilation of what is called customs smokers boxes.

 

[backinaction]

That's interesting. I wonder why their numbers are so different from the CDC's (which I corrected was actually 14% ).

Also, slightly off topic, do they really still have smoking rooms at some airports? I remember sitting in one in Atlanta as an underaged smoker. I haven't seen one in years that was still in use.

They had one in vegas when I went about ten years ago. It was filled with slot machines.

 

[matt9112]

Oh dear...here we go down the rabbit hole.

First, you should hate carcinogens. There’s little debate there.

Second, and this is philosophical, but smoking is the one bad/destructive habit that often takes the others not participating’s right of avoiding it away. I believe the main reason it’s no longer popular is the fact you can’t quarantine it. You can “not have” my beer...and I can “not have” your cheeseburger grease...however I cannot “not have” the fumes unless I often take a circuitous, trailblazing path around you in a flanking pattern while factoring in wind conditions.

I have no choice...which occurred to me every time I went past the awful smoking area near the treehouse.

The reality is it’s no longer “individual rights” when it takes it away from others. Big brother will always win that scenario.

There are other - OBVIOUS - factors...especially economic in WDW...but that doesn’t really matter.

This was going to happen anyway...no debate.

why do you have to get so close to smoking sections? in reality some of the sections could be better designed...your argument is that you cant avoid the smoke but that is inherently not true. inconvenient maybe but avoidable. its irelevant its a change amd i dont even smoke and never have i just dont see the gain.

 

[LukeS7]

And you know who's mostly in the smoking sections? People not from America (but they're still there too). They still smoke like it's in style (any of our British regulars want to chime in?). This is going to be a problem for Disney.

https://publichealthmatters.blog.go...on-tobacco-smoking-in-england-hits-a-new-low/

 

[PurpleJesus]

Ah ok so in the regular world you are above the rules but not at Disney

You're an interesting person. Why do you care one way or another about my personal conduct; as if it has any bearing on the behavior of other park guests that may vape?

Why not discuss the policy and its impacts? You can judge me all you want; I couldn't care less, but how about addressing my actual point? People are going to start vaping outside of those now defunct designated areas.

Do you not think that is more of a problem than having two smoking areas?

Feel free to go back to armchair QB'ing my behavior in public .

 

[King Panda 77]

You're an interesting person. Why do you care one way or another about my personal conduct; as if it has any bearing on the behavior of other park guests that may vape?

Why not discuss the policy and its impacts? You can judge me all you want; I couldn't care less, but how about addressing my actual point? People are going to start vaping outside of those now defunct designated areas.

Do you not think that is more of a problem than having two smoking areas?

Feel free to go back to armchair QB'ing my behavior in public .

 

[DisneyDebRob]

The only way this works is if they forbid tobacco products inside the gate, Disney wouldn’t have to be strict about it for everyone but if someone complains about another person smoking it would empower CM and security to ask that person to turn out their pockets if they have smoking parafenalia you either turn it over or get kicked out.

Vaping is not a tobacco product. Although it’s always lumped in with cigarettes. I don’t even have nicotine in mine.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

I suspect both sides of this argument can argue until we're all blue in the face. The fact is, people will do whatever they need to get their fix. Many will follow the rules. I suspect most (especially the younger demographic) will not. Given the statistics, it won't be cigarette smoke but vapor that will hang over the paths at WDW. Especially at night. You watch.

 

[No Name]

This is fantastic so long as they enforce it. In the most rare of rare events, the company announced three changes in one day that I actually think will serve them well.

 

[larryz]

Apologies 14% in 2017. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/adult_data/cig_smoking/index.htm

Sorry, but if the survey relies on self-reporting, people are just not going to tell the government the truth. Hence all those "non-smokers" holding their cigarettes out of the window as they drive down the street.

 

[monothingie]

Smokers at parks on 4/30.

 

[DisneyFreak]

Besides, and more importantly - what's inside - must be vented outside.

It would be vented, more then likely, through the roof. Since exhaled cigarette smoke is at a higher temperature and lower density it would rise and therefore not effect any other guests.

 

[Kman101]

You think this is about marijuana? The “great evil” of the pearl clutches?

No...not at all.

This is about numbers. Far more people are repulsed by smoking than tolerate it now...that’s just a 40 year trend.

Repulsion leads to more economic hesitation.

This is about profits...and profits flow along the path of lesser residtence.

With all due respect...it doesn’t matter what goes on in the smoking sections anymore.

As much as it did matter that we couldn’t fill the 3 outta 33 smoking buildings at Caribbean 20 years ago.

With all due respect, you're just throwing stuff out there. I do kind of know what I'm talking about and I'll leave it at that. Would you like me to snap you some pictures of how crowded the smoking areas get? Shall I interview some folks for you too to make sure you know where they've all come from?

It's got almost nothing to do with profits. LOL.

 

[monothingie]

It would have been perfect if they banned smoking effective on 4/20.

 

[Dave Z]

While helping my son win his battle against cancer, I meant a lot of smokers loosing theirs, there's nothing good about smoking.....just go to any cancer hospital.