I think disney leaked plans for their HKdl phase 2 expansion in some concept art on the hk disneyland website. Take a look at the bottom picture: http://www.hongkongdisneyland.com/eng/preview/diary/fanland_fs_attraction.html What do you think? Is that there because they plan on that land being used for a small world or is that just there to spice things up? Also notice the alice in wonderland maze lookin thing.
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Small World in Phase 2?
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Figment1986
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IASW may be in phase 2... or it may not be in the park....
but that Concept looks nice...
but that Concept looks nice...
jrriddle
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Ya, this was picked up by someone on these boards awhile ago when the pictures were first released and the attraction line up had not. It started all sorts of speculation.
Good eye picking up on it.
Rumoured Phase 2 so far:
Jungle themed Haunted Mansion.
Flume version of PotC.
And IASW.
Phase 1.5:
Cars themed Autopia
Good eye picking up on it.
Rumoured Phase 2 so far:
Jungle themed Haunted Mansion.
Flume version of PotC.
And IASW.
Phase 1.5:
Cars themed Autopia
imagineer boy
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Is it just me, or does it look like TDL's fantaseyland? THe alice in wonderland maze looks like the facade to the alice in wonderland resturaunt there, and the IASW is in the spot where it usually is in Fantaseyland.
DisneyFan 2000
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It could just be the Toon themed station...
I'm still surprised they managed to inculde so little. Talk about being cheap...
Did imagineers even work on this or was everything cloned?
Lets hope the 1 dark ride FL holds will be the TDL version...
EDIT: Counted. 16 "real" attractions (no grottos, tiki water guns and gardensincluded)... :hammer:
I'm still surprised they managed to inculde so little. Talk about being cheap...
Did imagineers even work on this or was everything cloned?Lets hope the 1 dark ride FL holds will be the TDL version...
EDIT: Counted. 16 "real" attractions (no grottos, tiki water guns and gardensincluded)... :hammer:
SpectroMan
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DisneyFan 2000 said:It could just be the Toon themed station...
I'm still surprised they managed to inculde so little. Talk about being cheap...
Lets hope the 1 dark ride FL holds will be the TDL version...
EDIT: Counted. 16 "real" attractions (no grottos, tiki water guns and gardensincluded)... :hammer:
I would like to remind everyone, Disneyland did not start with much! Hong Kong might not have as many rides as the opening of Disneyland did, but Disneyland did not have much more.
DisneyFan 2000
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Today, these things are lightyears cheaper than 50 years ago. There's no excuse for such a lame park. Even the Magic Kingdom opened with more, and that was over 30 years ago!
jrriddle
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SpectroMan said:
Let's also remember:
-the technology is better today.
-Disneyland was the first, 4 Magic Kingdoms later they have no excuse as to what people want and expect.
-WDC has infinately more capital available than Walt did.
I'm not saying every park has to be DLP or TDS (The best Disney parks IMHO), and what they do have at HKDL looks wonderfully well themed (lots of detail).
I'm just looking forward to Phase 2 when the park gets filled out more attraction wise.
SpectroMan
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jrriddle said:
I agree with you on all your other statements except this one.
The Chinese are totally different in culture and beliefs from the other groups that visit Disney theme parks. Disneyland and WDW are American, and since it was designed by Americans, it wasn't that difficult. The Japanese are obsessed with Americana, and so the Imagineers could transfer many things over easily. Europeans and Americans have many things in common. Some things that are different in our cultures, but it was easy to counter the differences. On the other hand, the Chinese are opposite of Americans in many ways.
I agree there should be many more rides in Hong Kong, but Disney is playing on the safe side. What if the Chinese just want the shows like Disney is saying? Then building rides would not be what they need to do.
You consider Disneyland Paris as one of the greatest Disney Park, but look at the problems it had even BEFORE the Studios Park was built. This time, Disney has decided to make the park more beautiful with less rides than beautiful and alot of rides.
And on a final note, this park will definitely be better than The Walt Disney Studios in Paris and the California Adventure.
TheHawK
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SpectroMan said:
Agreed
Disney is going to play it safe with this one. With the recend flops they aren't going to go out and pour millions into something that could flop. Which I don't think this one will at all. This will be a nice resort in a few years. They still have the area for another park and more hotels. Yes, its lacking attactions but more will be built after it opens and Disney can sence what the people want. Something that Disneyland Paris is lacking and this one isn't is a great location
jrriddle
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SpectroMan said:
OK, and I'll 1/2 agree with you. I guess when I think of Hong Kong I still think of it before the handover to China. It was (and to some degree) still a very democratic place. As opposed to mainland China, citizens of Hong Kong could travel alot more freely than their Chinese counterparts. I'm sure at least some of them would have visited TDL, WDW or even DL or DLP.
Wouldn't they have certain expectations of a Disney theme park?
Even now as China becomes more of an ecomomic power house wouldn't even more people be travelling abroad with new disposable income?
Opps. I think this is getting too much into a political area. Sorry, I'm going to stop before I start into Chinese/Japanese tensions going on right now.
I apologize. It's Sunday and I'm talking about things that I have only read about and am theorizing over.
Let's wait for one of the HK members to shed some real light on what the Chinese might expect from the New Disneyland.
As for DLP. It's sort of a sore spot for me. I guess I always pull for the underdog. And after having been there before things really went south, I have very fond memories of the place.
I guess when I said DLP is the greatest park I meant in terms of beauty. Same with TDS. Yes the arguement can be made that even that park is lacking in rides (an arguement that I didn't agree with when I visited).
Listen, SM. I am in no way knocking HKDL. If you go over some of the old threads I hated the place and then started defending it after I started to see the concept art and the construction pictures.
My only concern was that there are certain attractions that people (even in Hong Kong) have heard about, and probably expect.
Among those (I think) would be IASW, HM and PotC. And 2 of them have been made into movies. And the PotC DVD has clips of the ride. I'm not sure about HM never saw it. These are the classic Disney Attractions.
I very much hope to visit HKDL (after Phase2). It looks like a very beautiful park. The Jungle Cruise looks great! I really like the themeing of Tomorrowland (it's no Discoveryland but it's pretty cool). And the Disneyland Hotel looks like (from the concept art) it might even give The Disneyland Hotel in Paris a run for it's money. At least until the OLC build theirs in a few years. :lol:
DisneyFan 2000
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SpectroMan said:
Disney also said the French prefer more shows, thus Wlat Disney Studios. Look where it brought them eventually...
SpectroMan said:
The problems it had before could be summed up in 3 words: Too many hotels. They lost money from the resort as a whole, not from the main attraction!
Besides, just look at the few attractions they chose to build. Not exactly glamerous and up to Disney standards... Even Space Mountain is the more dated version when all they had to do is clone the Paris one. Not too hard is it?