sinkhole in the parks

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
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That is a thorn in the HOA that is in my neighborhood. I did not sign it and still was able to purchase the house. So I do not have to live by their rules and there is nothing they can do about it. See a contract is a two way street and I did not agree and thus did not sign it. But all the paper work that was required for purchasing I did sign. But still HOA's are created by sad pathetic control freaks that have no life of their own and feel that they should take away others liberties.
There are quite a few that are like that which is why I initially said to limit their power. A HOA is designed to have a controlling body that can pay the bills for the maintenance of common grounds and maintain a certain level of curb appeal for the houses. The reality is that power goes to people's heads and you end up with vigilantes with a golfs cart and a clipboards.
 

pumpkin7

Well-Known Member
Doesn't Epcot have a sink hole in one of the lakes? The one near the Odyssey building?

And I'm sure I've read somewhere that during construction, workers parked a massive digger on site over night. Next morning, they came back to find the digger gone! They thought it had been stolen, but it had actually sunk into the ground. Though that could just because Orlando is one giant bog, but interesting story if it is true.
 

Master Yoda

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Doesn't Epcot have a sink hole in one of the lakes? The one near the Odyssey building?

And I'm sure I've read somewhere that during construction, workers parked a massive digger on site over night. Next morning, they came back to find the digger gone! They thought it had been stolen, but it had actually sunk into the ground. Though that could just because Orlando is one giant bog, but interesting story if it is true.
No idea about the digger disappearing, but there is, or was a sink hole in front of the Odyssey and there is one under UoE if I am not mistaken as well.
 

Master Yoda

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There is one near the 7 Seas Lagoon too. Where they were going to build one of the resorts. Right past The Contemporary.
As I understand it, there was not a sink hole on that section of the property. The problem with section of land is a very high water table that creates a condition called negative skin friction. Basically, friction piles driven into the ground actually get sucked down into the ground vs resisting tee load like they should. In extreme cases you get conditions like the one pictured below.

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matt9112

Well-Known Member
I use a good bit of rock in my yard now, as much as the HOA will let me get away with, but I would love to go 100%. What sucks is most HOA will not allow it and depending on how aggressive they are, they can really make life difficult for you.


tell them to pound sand....get it?
 

matt9112

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As I understand it, there was not a sink hole on that section of the property. The problem with section of land is a very high water table that creates a condition called negative skin friction. Basically, friction piles driven into the ground actually get sucked down into the ground vs resisting tee load like they should. In extreme cases you get conditions like the one pictured below.

p221.jpeg

another thread of this? lol didnt somebody say disney shot a few test footers down and discovered the condition you just mentioned. after they just went into god knows where.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
As I understand it, there was not a sink hole on that section of the property. The problem with section of land is a very high water table that creates a condition called negative skin friction. Basically, friction piles driven into the ground actually get sucked down into the ground vs resisting tee load like they should. In extreme cases you get conditions like the one pictured below.

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Where is that?
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
HOA's can be a pain we didn't buy a few houses because of the very strict HOA. We found one that is more loose just make sure people do exterior repairs in a timely fashion and that you don't have grass a foot tall in the front yard.
 

Victor Kelly

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We made sure not to buy a house with a zealous HOA when we bought a house. As for the idiots that run around in other developements, there are ways of dealing with Them:rolleyes:
 

The Mom

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Premium Member
We live in an Historic Detrict. Not really a problem unless you want to paint your house an unusual color (although the Pepto-Bismal house was grandfathered in) or are doing renovations. Anything inside is OK; anything that can be seen from the street has to be reviewed by the Historic Commision - in addition to applying for the usual county permits.

It isn't that much of a bother. Most people who buy houses in this neighborhood want houses that are traditional for the area. In the past, several "modern" buildings and homes were built, and they didn't exactly blend in.

I have no grass (except for the strip the city owns, but I must maintain) I do not fertilize, spray for insects, and rarely water. I do have to spray a few areas for weeds, but most of them can be pulled.
 

Victor Kelly

Well-Known Member
Sounds like Gettysburg. But that is history, not a newly built housing development.

Back on track for sinkholes, That is why Florida is known as the Land of 1000 Lakes.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
We will just have to agree to disagree, as HOA's are garbage and anti Constitution of the United States way of life. That is my opinion and I am very entitled to it.

And I'll second that opinion.

So you are OK with your neighbor painting his house neon pink and having 3 cars on blocks in the front yard lowering the value of your property?

Or are you the guy with the pink house?:cautious:

I don't care what color someone paints their house.

1. I'm not paying their mortgage, so I have no say in what they do on their own property.
2. HOAs feeling the need to make sure everything is exactly the same is just plain boring. Ultimately, a house is the outmost reflection of the person living there, and I'd rather live next to people who know how to live and have fun with their lives (like these Floridians...the husband is a Florida Gators fan, his wife likes the FSU Seminoles) than some old stick in the mud who has no thrill left in their life aside from planning their own funeral.


That's right, HOAs.

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I'M A LEAD GARDENER,
 
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Epcot-Rules

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Florida has a very high water table, it is atop of limestone. People forget how many natural springs exist here. Water just bubbles up from the ground in thousands of places. Limestone erodes, causing sinkholes. Deep pilings can help with this situation, but there is no sure way to prevent it.
 

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