No. I'm well aware.
Hey, have you started a #removebobiger Twitter campaign yet? I understand those really have some teeth.
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Sign to remove BOB IGER as CEO of Disney
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Hey, have you started a #removebobiger Twitter campaign yet? I understand those really have some teeth.
Once again - Are you happy with Iger's tenure? Are you a little miffed that despite record profits (none of which are his doing) he is making cuts at WDW ? Are you okay with the billions wasted on the MAGIC BAND system? Not one e-ticket attraction under his tenure?
You can't do it can you ... can't bring yourself to say anything negative. Why is that? Are you okay with those losing their jobs because of him, despite the parks making record profits?
Timsierramist
Active Member
Yep. You win dude. clap-clap. Back to the subject...
(You aren't Bob Iger in secret are you
. You probably are not a cast member.)
FYI, Iger just doesn't run Parks and Resorts. Disney is a multi media entertainment empire. You seem to be fixated on one part of the bigger overall picture.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
haha...its not really the new kid again, is it??
DarthMileZ
Well-Known Member
Sure this is not a major mainstream petition, but it's a start for us members. Sign at the bottom, along with your thoughts on Bob 'corporate greed' Iger.
He became chief CEO of Disney in 2005. Let's take a look at his 'achievements'.
1) Wasted a collossus some of money on the My Magic Plus system. Reports suggest it was close to one billion dollars. Enough money to build an entire new parks, or 4-5 Harry Potter type worlds. Most, including Disney, have conceded it was an utter waste of money. It won't be repeated at any other park.
2) An investment of up to 5.5. billion dollars in Shanghai Disney. Opening up just as the Chinese market is beginning to slow down massively, and with another park in Hong Kong that has struggled since opening. This was Iger's vanity project. A massive fail.
3) Has not invested in any single e-ticket attraction at the parks in Orlando. And one sole e-ticket attraction in California. Let that sink in for a minute. NOT ONE e-ticket attraction in ten years of being in charge. Eissner before him, as derided as he was too, built Animal Kingdom, countless e-ticket attractions, and invested in the parks. In Orlando, he has overseen the run down of Hollywood Studios, sanitising Epcot from it's original premise.
An example of his utter contempt for theme parks - is he green lit a cheap redo of Maelstrom at Epcot as a Frozen attraction. This has taken 2 years to finish, and is still no where near complete. Let's look at what OLC are doing with Tokyo Disney (who are run seperate from Disney, thus without Iger) are doing with their Frozen attraction :
Makes you feel cheated doesn't it ? OLC are also planning to invest 4.6 billion into their parks over the coming years.
Bob Iger doesn't get theme parks. It can emplified in this rather unflattering photo of him :
You see, we all enjoy that. We take our children, and let them enjoy the escapism, and have fun. Iger doesn't see it that way. He see's a man under that costume. He is not a theme park man. There are many like him, you say you are going to Disney, and they just assume it's roller coasters and fast rides - they don't see what else it has to offer, be it great landscape, themeing, dining, and most importantly rides that are out of this world. Iger unfortunately thinks it's just rides that go up and down, there is no love their from him.
Iger is no Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs loved technology, and implementing into peoples lives to make a change was his motivation. His sole motive was never profit, but to push boundaries of home technology into people's lives. John Lassister, over at Pixar, he loved his art, the motive wasn't financial. Finance was a mere reward for the love. Spielberg as a child loved making movies. He made his first movie for a few thousand dollars. The motive wasn't money - it was LOVE.
Does anyone believe Bob Iger has any love for the theme parks? Iger's first love is money.
4) The calculated 'pretend investment'. If there is anything more sinister under the tenure of Iger, is his calculated, almost sly 'pretened of investment', that keeps the masses (and Disney moms and their rewards) at bay. Big projects announced, that will take so long, so many years, that you wonder what sort of investment it's under. But the vast majority of people are fooled into believing he is investing. He isn't doing anything of the sorts. He is simply pandering to keep fans of Disney happy, and keep his shareholders happy. That's important - the shareholders.
You see Iger in August last year went up on stage and announced he was going to build Star Wars Land. The stock price took a dip up, fans were happy. Then nothing happened. Classic Iger. Even now, as we approach March 2016, not a single peice of Star Wars construction has begun. Now we have forecasts this is not scheduled to open for another 5+ years. This is despite him closing so many attractions in Hollywood Studios down, that were believed to be for this land - but foresight and Iger form were probably about cost cutting.
Daigon Alley took 2 and a bit years. The whole of the original Disneyland was built in a year. Repeat the forumla for Avatar, which has been in talks now for over 5 years. And we are still no where near completion. What on earth sort of bafoonery is going on here?
You know what he will build though? A cheap Toy Story Land. You will get that. Disney mom's will be happy with that. A Toy Story land, that is so cheap and insipid that it wouldn't look great in a Six Flags resort. He increased land space for the Fantasy Land, a project that he scaled back in investment, a coaster attraction that was cut back to it's raw limits, that ended up being nothing more than land space. But Iger and the media hype machine fooled you all into believing it was a huge investment - it really wasn't people.
Go walk around Disney Hollywood Studios. Now just now, but walk around it five years ago. It was so badly in need of investment then, but nothing.
Go walk around look at the empty buildings at Epcot. Nothing. Nothing at all.
Why doesn't Iger like to invest in new attractions? Why doesn't he want to leave behind a legacy, that he oversaw an attraction that will last for decades, that will be loved by children and adults the world over? What stops him? CORPORATE GREED IS ALL. You see with all other investments, Iger has seen a calculated way to increase money QUICK, bring the stock market price up and get in profits quick. That's why he has greenlit so many shops, including Disney Springs - it brings in money. But an attraction - it's a slow burner. You see, it will first take a fair while to build, then on top it will take a while for the investment to roll back in. Iger doesn't like that. You see, Iger wants instant money back - be it shops making money straight away, a weekend box office for his latest movie.
See, if Iger tomorrow invests 1 billion in theme parks - he won't see a return on that investment for a fair while. That one billion will come of his balance sheet. You know what happens when a balance sheet is showing massive losses, it comes out of Igers salary. But you see, people will come to the theme parks, generations, year after year - and profits will go up at the theme parks. But it's a long term strategy, that one billion investment will have people coming to the parks for decades. It's not a strategy that provides instant NOW MONEY.
The problem with his lack of investment, and his sole drive for corporate greed is he is ruining the theme parks. People will eventually stop coming, and profits for theme park division will go down. But you know what - Iger won't be around then! Another sucker can pick up that problem.
5) Iger loves movies. Iger is from a background of movies and tv. That's his true love. That's where he puts his time and effort. He procided over the biggest box office flops of all time in the movie industry, that would have collapsed any other studio - John Carter of Mars, The Lone Ranger, Prince of Persia - were massive disasters. Go read up on them and see the loss they made. You could have build two new theme parks for the loss they made! But you see Iger got lucky. There was a movie called Frozen. Iger had little to do with Frozen. It was a cartoon. The advertisment budget for Frozen was low. But it somehow struck gold. Iger got lucky and was saved. Iger has since learned his lessons and has performed well over the movie division since.
6) Iger despite prociding over the biggest waste of money in Disney history, keeps his salary high, and keeps money coming in for investors. His vanity projects have all failed, now cuts back his sole profit making enterprise - the theme parks in America. Cut backs everywhere. Why? Well, corporates got to get paid. Iger salary got to get paid. Iger was paid 47 million in 2015.
Cast members, who were once so religiously supportive of the guy, now finally see the true corporate man he really is.
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN - till we get rid of Bob Iger the theme parks in America are forever ruined. GET RID.
BOB IGER - running vacations for us all.
dear oh dear oh dear... for a start this is a forum not a petition... go here > http://www.thepetitionsite.com
now..
1) nice pictures
2) the bands actually are a really awesome feature if your staying on site, its alot less hassle than carrying paper round and its also very eco friendly. you also can keep them for a long time. its a neat BUSINESS decision... you know cos like... . disney is a business.
3) i wouldnt call it a massive fail at all to open shanghai, agreed its not the best time for it due to the crash but these decisions don't come over night, this is something that has been in production for a long time.
4) are you mental? Frozen Ride, Star Wars Experience, Toy Story Land, a new version of Soarin, Avatar & Night time experiences for Animal Kingdom. anything else?
5) you seem think that as soon as these parks are announced they should open, these things take time, not only do they need to design them right but they need to build them and test them and do soft openings. imagine if star wars experience opened and it was crappy and didnt feel like star wars? you'd hate it.
6) He secured Marvel & Lucasfilm.......... massively profitable IP's, star wars alone could save Disney from any potential troubles and Marvel is huge right now.
Iger is in charge. He's the top man. He green lit 'JOHN CARTER OF MARS'. He green lit SHANGHAI DISNEY. He is responsible for the magicplus system failure and billions wasted. He is the one who decided to go with that system, at the expense of any new attractions. He is responsible. That's the job description of a CEO.
No Jordan, I've learned (unlike yourself and your multiple incarnations here) that yammering on at Bob Iger or others on an internet forum doesn't get one anywhere. I, on the other hand have not renewed my APs and have found other destination locales at which to spend my vacation dollar. So you may wish to give up the "If you're not with me you're against me" load of b#ll#cks before you're banned. Again....
Dude, you got some real issues.
1) The bands and the system cost over one billion dollars. It might be 'neat' as you say, but it's been a massive waste of money, a failure. You realise for that amount they could have built an entire new park.
2) Shanghai Disney was always a ropey decision. They have a park in Hong Kong, with similar conditions, and it's been far from a success. Recent reports are attendance has fallen there. To then go back and make another park in China is insanity.
3) Yes Avatar Land - 5 years and waiting. Star Wars Land - yes you can wait five or more years for that too. Don't make me laugh regarding the re-do of Maeslstrom for Frozen. Smoke and mirrors - Avatar could be years away. Star Wars - i believe it when i start seeing construction. But he's been here for more than ten years - not one e-ticket attraction. Disgrace.
3) Lucasfilm could have been secured by any Studio - Disney had the deepest pockets to have it financed by the corporate banks, to maximise it's potential through media, film, tv, theme parks, toys, etc. Are you seriously saying Warner Bros, Sony, etc would not have wanted it could they have got the finance for it? It's like giving someone credit for buying a Ferrari because the bank would give them a loan for it. When Lucasfilm made it known they may sell, Disney had the deepest pockets. But even then some say the deal was very expensive. Disney will need to keep up The Force Awaken type numbers every year for ten years before they even make even.
George Lucas on the current DISNEY REGIME : "All thoseStar Warsfilms ... I loved them, I created them, I'm very intimately involved in them, and I sold them to the white slavers "
You're going to mention how Lucas later retracted that statement, right Jordan?
epcotisbest
Well-Known Member
Wow. You have stated multiple times Iger has nothing to do with the record profits then proclaim he is in charge, the top man, responsible. Which is it?
My stock was $25 or so in 2005. It has quadrupled since Iger's tenure began...and yes, there is much more to the company that you yourself proclaim he is responsible for than just the parks.
He apologised for it, once the corporate machine took over. But he said it. You can't take back comments i'm afraid.
Other Jordan puppet accounts?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
likely.
All evidence to the contrary, eh Jordan?
And if it's anything like his other tries, he'll get the boot soon enough....
DarthMileZ
Well-Known Member
Really?
1) its massive waste of money in your opinion, not fact, i think alot of people like it.. including me, collecting the magic bands is fun and actually they will probably make a fair profit, especially now they have star wars themed limited edition bands that all the collectors will drool over.
2) "recent reports" from which source? attendance is high everywhere pretty much apart from Paris but thats because of the terror attacks.
3) Star Wars will open in 2018... it was announced last year that it will be coming, if anything they just announced it too early, but only because of the force awakens hype they had to do something.. thats how you build hype on things... Frozen is open in May/June/July... they may be disney imagineers but they are not miracle workers, that my friend is jesus. supposedly.you should see some of the theme parks in the UK. Thorpe Park for one hasnt had a decent new attraction in 15 years.
4) No, george SELECTED disney. its well documented and then when the film went really well he flipped out and then retracted his statement again... he's an in my opinion and thats coming from a massive star wars fan.
5) if they were in deep trouble they wouldnt open so many new attractions / parks. so no. hes not running into the ground.