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Share A Dream Come True Parade
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TiggersPooh
Active Member
I wanted to see that parade so bad!! (share a dream) so on our last day we went back to MK and they sent out the band and the Marshals for the parade but before they could start the parade it was pouring pouring I say!!! It was such a bummer!! But on the plush side since it never really stopped raining there was NEVER any waits!! Walked on TOT!! walked on RnR!!! MGM was empty!! as was the other parks!!!
Maria
New Member
Re: One of the BEST ever!
LOL! I saw ToN many times and in fact worked crowd control for it many many nights... I agree with you partially... I didn´t like the marionettes too much. I only liked the drummers, those were very cool. I have got to the conclusion that the reason I liked it, was the music. I never understood why people would sit and wait for it to start when they could have walked with it and spend that waiting time in any of the countries or attractions! :hammer:
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LOL! I saw ToN many times and in fact worked crowd control for it many many nights... I agree with you partially... I didn´t like the marionettes too much. I only liked the drummers, those were very cool. I have got to the conclusion that the reason I liked it, was the music. I never understood why people would sit and wait for it to start when they could have walked with it and spend that waiting time in any of the countries or attractions! :hammer:
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wdwcrazy
New Member
Who cares how cheap or expensive a parades is. Look at how much money was spend on Light Magic. That probably turned out to be the biggest fluke in Disney history. I don't care if they spend $2000 or $20,000 on a parade, as long as it's a good parade I'm happy. ToD is a good parade in my opintion. If you don't like it, that's ok. I loved Tod, and I like ToD too. I hope it stays.
mightyduck
Well-Known Member
I don't think the $$ is the issue, here.... I was at Epcot for the Millennium and really wanted to see the ToN parade and didn't get to. Then I saw it last year, and I thought it was cool, but like I said, I'm not much of a parade person. When I was there over spring break this year, I watched ToD from the steps in Japan while I ate a snack. A pretty good view, but I just found it disappointing. And, I know lots of people will disagree with me on this, but I find the whole beginning voice-over just too cloying...
but I love the Share a Dream Come True parade!
but I love the Share a Dream Come True parade!
Herbie53
Premium Member
ToD shouldn't have been a very expensive parade since they didn't start from scratch. Like Tiggerman said, it's not really a matter of total cost so much as it is a matter of value. I haven't seen ToD yet, but judging from what I've read on this thread it sounds like they took a parade whose strong point was its simplicity, and fussed it up too much. Cheap doesn't automatically mean bad, and expensive doesn't automatically mean good. It all depends on how smart you are with your money.
mightyduck
Well-Known Member
Herbie and Fievel, I agree with you both!
Herbie, you're right. Money does not determine the worth of a parade (as in, "expensive = entertaining"). They did fuss the ToN up too much, IMO, and then added this annoying, sappy voiceover that lacks subtlety. I don't need the idea or importance of dreams rammed down my throat.... I prefer the simplicity of the "True Colors" photo montage in the JIYI pavilion. Sometimes telling people is a turnoff--show me people with great dreams and let me decide!
Herbie, you're right. Money does not determine the worth of a parade (as in, "expensive = entertaining"). They did fuss the ToN up too much, IMO, and then added this annoying, sappy voiceover that lacks subtlety. I don't need the idea or importance of dreams rammed down my throat.... I prefer the simplicity of the "True Colors" photo montage in the JIYI pavilion. Sometimes telling people is a turnoff--show me people with great dreams and let me decide!
TravisMT81
Well-Known Member
Light Magic just wasn;t recieved by the DL public because it was MSEP replacement. Personally I liked it
Disneyanna0521
Account Suspended
That parade was made esp.for the 100 years Celebration. Just like the other 3 new parades at the other theme parks.
A disney nut,
Anna Elizabeth
A disney nut,
Anna Elizabeth
which one?
Share a Dream and Disney Stars/Motor cars were made specifically for 100 years... Jammin' Jungle was on the drawing boards for a while, and was released as a 100 years parade.. but ToD is a rehab of ToN and nothing more. Not too many people consider it a new parade
sillyspook13
Well-Known Member
I figured...... Since my name has been brought up several times in this thread, I should voice my own opinion.
As much as I've loved both Tapestry incarnations, I must agree with Rob. Money was spent in the wrong places. Just adding instruments to the puppets isn't enough. Many of the puppets (especially disc men) are falling apart. They are in serious need of repair or replacement. And, as Rob said, the new puppeteers suck! They ruin what little choreography there is in the parade, and they lack the magic that the original puppeteers had. A friend and I now call the parade "Tragedy of Screams".
It wasn't originally the simplicity that drew me to Tapestry of Nations. It was individuality. It was able to be a charming parade without an appearance of Mickey or Pooh. That's why I also love Mickey's Jammin' Jungle Parade. It manages to combine something unique with........ characters!
I can only hope that Tapestry of Dreams is replaced with another unique parade. Epcot isn't the type of park that should have a parade based on typical floats and characters.
As much as I've loved both Tapestry incarnations, I must agree with Rob. Money was spent in the wrong places. Just adding instruments to the puppets isn't enough. Many of the puppets (especially disc men) are falling apart. They are in serious need of repair or replacement. And, as Rob said, the new puppeteers suck! They ruin what little choreography there is in the parade, and they lack the magic that the original puppeteers had. A friend and I now call the parade "Tragedy of Screams".
It wasn't originally the simplicity that drew me to Tapestry of Nations. It was individuality. It was able to be a charming parade without an appearance of Mickey or Pooh. That's why I also love Mickey's Jammin' Jungle Parade. It manages to combine something unique with........ characters!
I can only hope that Tapestry of Dreams is replaced with another unique parade. Epcot isn't the type of park that should have a parade based on typical floats and characters.
mightyduck
Well-Known Member
Oh, sillyspook! I hope you weren't offended--I didn't mean to hurt your feelings if I did. I just know how upset you were when they announced a "new" parade to take the place of ToN and you seemed better when you saw the new parade!
So good to see you here!
So good to see you here!
TinkerBell9988
Well-Known Member
Yay! Hooray! Let's shout it from the rooftops!! :sohappy:
Sorry.....
sillyspook13
Well-Known Member
I wasn't offended at all! I didn't mind as much when they chanced ToN because the good performers were still there. Now the good puppeteers have moved on, and so have I. It's no big deal.Originally posted by mightyduck
Oh, sillyspook! I hope you weren't offended--I didn't mean to hurt your feelings if I did. I just know how upset you were when they announced a "new" parade to take the place of ToN and you seemed better when you saw the new parade!
So good to see you here!
AdLibSean
New Member
Mktiggerman,
First off thanks for the info on the parade, always interesting to hear details on the process of it all. But where did everything go wrong with the conversion of ToN into ToD? What was SUPPOSED to be done? Only if you can divulge info though. I understand being where you're at- its sensitive. What happened to the original show director, Gary Papen? Did he move on? Obviously, new leadership backstage or in the corporate area is what has caused the decline in puppeteer quality, and overall quality of the parade. I'll admit, I'm a huge fan of ToN. I think it was something that just has to be chalked up as an experience. While it was good to see the puppets and hear the music around WS again, I do not care for Tapestry of Dreams. I think Mike Currey, Gary Papen, and Gavin Greenaway would be thoroughly let down by the new parade. I think part of ToN's success was the Sage's sincerity in his voice. The Dreamseekers sound like sat- morning cartoons and look it as well. You said that the guest- surveys are low for ToD, how were they for ToN? And did you enjoy ToN in its original form? Its sad to see that such a great parade has come to what it is now. Thanks for listening.
I can't divulge that, but what I can say is that the concept and finished product are far from similar.... there was more that was supposed to be done, which never was.
he left... I'll leave it at that
that's not the only thing. Tapestry of Dreams is staffed mostly by part time, seasonal and college program CM's whom disney views as dispensable. The reason they don't care, is because they really have no reason to. This is just a job to most of them and nothing more. Also, they are hiring people not as performers, but as a warm body to put in a puppet.
i'll be blunt. ToN is the 3rd most popular Disney parade... ever.
1-MSEP (no brainer!)
2-Spectromagic
3-Tapestry of Nations (ToN, Tap'O Nay, etc)
oh god yes. You cannot imagine. They did a ToN special event a few months back (it wouldn't be hard to bring it back.. in fact, anyone with enough money can have it performed for a special event.. you'll just have to dig up enough old ToN cast)... and I was sooo happy they did this.