Serious: any hope for a visit to Orlando as a trans woman?

[mickEblu]

This will probably be a shock because I lean right too but I'm firmly in the use whatever restroom you “look” like you belong in camp. If you look like a guy and go in a men’s restroom 99.999% won’t notice, if you look like a girl and go in a girls restroom 99.999% won’t notice.

If we were talking about communal showers or something it would be a bit trickier but it’s Disney, unless someone’s going out of there way to look at your privates in a bathroom I don’t know how anyone would even know.

As I said before I wouldn't worry about DeSantis or the laws, he’s made a lot of noise but there’s an estimated 110,000 trans people living in Florida, if they can survive the new laws 24 hours a day 365 days a year you will be fine for a week.

There’s always people that can tell. Most people can tell IMO. Most guys won’t care if they see a “girl” in the men’s restroom. I went to a concert recently where dozens of women raided the men’s restroom when their line got too long and nobody blinked. On the other hand you might have a father/husband waiting outside of the women’s restroom for his daughter or wife who does care. Especially in Florida.

 

[Clover Bailey]

There’s always people that can tell. Most people can tell IMO. Most guys won’t care if they see a “girl” in the men’s restroom. I went to a concert recently where dozens of women raided the men’s restroom when their line got too long and nobody blinked. On the other hand you might have a father/husband waiting outside of the women’s restroom for his daughter or wife who does care. Especially in Florida.

Have you ever met a trans person? If not, there's a chance you have and didn't notice. Your "most people can tell" logic isn't really based in anything. Most trans women don't look like men in dresses.

 

[John park hopper]

I don't know how the press is in Ireland but here in the states the press over exaggerates issues in order to sell papers or TV news. You will have no problem going to FL WDW. Go and have a good time

 

[The Mom]

To address a few specifics:

Florida did pass a law that requires adults getting HRT prescription to sign an informed consent form but there is nothing that prevents them taking the medication.

The restroom law only applies to government-owned buildings and it's criteria for determining gender would require a pretty invasive medical examination.

Florida has tried to push back on DEI initiatives but I am not aware of any law that would limit how Disney could treat a customer.

As a Floridian, I have not heard anything about doctors refusing to treat trans people in an emergency situation. Primary care doctors might be different - I don't think they can be legally compelled to to take on a patient that they feel they cannot treat effectively. But this would not be an issue for a tourist.

There are ignorant people everywhere who seem to feel it is appropriate to mock others for their appearance. Most won't notice you, or if they do, won't say anything hateful. People often say things on the internet that they would never say IRL.

 

[The Mom]

Have you ever met a trans person? If not, there's a chance you have and didn't notice. Your "most people can tell" logic isn't really based in anything. Most trans women don't look like men in dresses.

The ones who look like men in dresses, yet expect to be treated as women, are the ones that get stares and remarks. Especially those who still have beards.
As the old joke goes, it's like bacon and eggs. A chicken is involved, but the pig is committed.

 

[Tom Morrow]

You'll have no problem.

Orlando is mostly a progressive bubble of acceptance within Florida, and Disney in particular takes extra effort to make sure everyone feels welcome.

Longtime Orlando resident here. and this is true.

I can't say the same thing if you were to, say, venture into Polk county maybe, but Orlando is very LGBTQ friendly.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Hmm. First, like I said in my post I tend to pass well enough that people don't realise I'm trans. The Caitlyn Jenner comment is true, but I'm not Caitlyn Jenner. I'm like 20. I'm less concerned about a child being rude to me but rather the chances of being subject to DeSantis' recent anti-trans laws.

Second, I've seen your attitude towards politics in other threads. I could be wrong here but I feel like you saw this thread, saw the word "trans" and decided to post this rather insensitive response about how I should temper my expectations of others. Not saying you're wrong, necessarily, but you never once share any sympathies for my situation.

You have the right to share your opinion, I just don't think it's in good faith.

You’re speculating. You don’t know me. I was very objective, IMO. I also don’t know you. If you pass as that gender, no one is going to notice or care. Do your biz and leave. I was pointing out that if you give main character energy and perhaps there is a question, ppl are going to notice. If you do what you gotta do, no one cares. As you said, how would they know?

If you think I was insensitive, I can’t help you.

 

[Chef Mickey]

The ones who look like men in dresses, yet expect to be treated as women, are the ones that get stares and remarks. Especially those who still have beards.
As the old joke goes, it's like bacon and eggs. A chicken is involved, but the pig is committed.

I think this was the main point I was making. The other stuff is just nonsense. If no one can tell, no one is going to care.

I've witnessed similar situations as well when guests


The speech here isn’t free. This is a private platform that is not based in the US, so any assumption that you have about that is just that an assumption. The administrators can delete this post, or the entire thread as they see fit. Best of luck.

Sure, they can. I didn’t claim it to be the same free speech as US but it was more a euphemism with knowledge I can be cancelled

I do think I was respectful and objectively, however. I don’t have anything against anyone. I don’t care enough to.

 

[mf1972]

i was going to suggest staying on disney property if u can. it’ll probably be better if u don’t want to face any kind of discrimination.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Hey everyone, haven't posted here in a while but I really want to get back on this forum.

My biggest dream at the moment is to take my boyfriend to Orlando, mainly for a Disney vacation but also to visit Universal too! I've been trying to plan a trip for a long time but I've had major concerns with the elephant in the room...

As many of you may know, Florida governor Ron DeSantis has been pushing and signing in various laws involving trans people, including bathroom bills and medical restrictions that are questionable to say the least.

I'm a young trans woman living in Dublin, Ireland, so a lot of this doesn't affect my personal life, and I generally pass very well, but if I were to visit Florida I would be putting myself at a lot of risk should my identity be discovered. From what I have read I cannot take my HRT medication while visiting, nor use the women's restrooms. Disney could face legal troubles for even respecting my gender identity, and apparently doctors have the right to refuse treatment in the rare case that I get involved in a deadly accident. Many organisations have advised against LGBT+ people visiting Florida in this climate. I was honestly in denial of how bad it is until my boyfriend confessed to me in tears that he didn't want to go to Florida at the moment out of fear for my safety and wellbeing.

Obviously visiting Florida isn't a wise idea for us at the current moment, my question is if there is any hope in the near future? I know Disney has been pretty clear that they are against these actions and, even if it is for financial reasons, want to support the LGBT+ community. DeSantis, however, doesn't seem to be interested in any of this, and from what I've gathered the Republican Party will continue his agenda in Florida regardless. However is there any chance that they may at least tone down if not forget these bills altogether?

Walt Disney World was a huge part of my childhood and I really want to share that magic with my boyfriend, and I just hope that it won't be too long til I have the chance to do so. Thanks for reading

Florida is great, WDW is great, Universal Orlando is great. You will have a great time. Don’t let the click bait media stop you from having fun!

 

[mickEblu]

Have you ever met a trans person? If not, there's a chance you have and didn't notice. Your "most people can tell" logic isn't really based in anything. Most trans women don't look like men in dresses.

Yes I have.

 

[JohnD]

There’s always people that can tell. Most people can tell IMO. Most guys won’t care if they see a “girl” in the men’s restroom. I went to a concert recently where dozens of women raided the men’s restroom when their line got too long and nobody blinked. On the other hand you might have a father/husband waiting outside of the women’s restroom for his daughter or wife who does care. Especially in Florida.

Agreed guys don't care when they see a woman in the men's room. You see this all the time at concerts and football games. There would more likely be a problem if an obvious adult male went into a women's restroom. The exceptions to either one are when parents are forced to bring their opposite sex children inside. What choice do they have? The kids need to tinkle or whatever and the parents need to facilitate this.

 

[Lilofan]

Agreed guys don't care when they see a woman in the men's room. You see this all the time at concerts and football games. There would more likely be a problem if an obvious adult male went into a women's restroom. The exceptions to either one are when parents are forced to bring their opposite sex children inside. What choice do they have? The kids need to tinkle or whatever and the parents need to facilitate this.

Women in a mens room is not only at concerts/ games. The LA Fitness I work out in daily is so hurting with staffing . There are signs posted in front of the mens locker room of " female staff cleaning locker room". Some men stark naked are in the locker room with a female staff member cleaning and no one blinks an eye.

 

[The Mom]

I believe that the question has been answered. You are not in increased danger at WDW or in Florida just because you are a trans woman, but there are also areas and times when I would be unsafe.

Use common sense, stay in tourist areas, and don't strip down in the Ladies' room and you should be as safe as you are at home..