You ask six managers the same question and you get eight answers and at least one confused look in return.
That and Disney managers are rather known for their ability to selectively enforce a policy, based on favoritism.
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Sentinel: Disney policy requiring character confidentiality comes under fire
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You ask six managers the same question and you get eight answers and at least one confused look in return.
That and Disney managers are rather known for their ability to selectively enforce a policy, based on favoritism.
He's talking Disney's management culture more than anything.
And you're right, its the selective few that screw it up for everyone.
AEfx
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And if the agreement becomes excessively long because morons need every last thing spelled out in excruciating detail, they will then complain (and litigate) that it was too difficult to understand and even though they signed it regardless, it should not apply anyway.
John
Well-Known Member
I can rewrite the policy in one sentence.
You can not use or discuss ANY Disney IP outside the parks in ANY way or you will be terminated.
You want to list what Disney IP is? Fine. But to have to articulate any further explanation what you can not and can do isn't needed.
You can not use or discuss ANY Disney IP outside the parks in ANY way or you will be terminated.
You want to list what Disney IP is? Fine. But to have to articulate any further explanation what you can not and can do isn't needed.
The way it was explained to me, the new policy is one where you can get Points on your record card for it. Can't be instantly terminated, but I'm sure if it was egregious enough (Mouse Body, Human Head), people would be escorted out.
friendofafriend
Active Member
I can't really say I disagree with you. It is a slippery slope indeed. I'm not sure what the solution is. I just really want to help make it clear that this isn't about the performers wanting to throw character integrity to the wind, that couldn't be farther from the truth.
The contract issue to me it's really (nearly) a moot point. I keep my nose clean and stay out of social media. But it begs the question though- could what I've said here get me fired? I certainly hope not but I honestly don't know.
Not IMO. You haven't revealed anything we don't already know. And no one knows who you are. Its not like youre some Food & Bev person in Fantasyland tweeting out attendance numbers under their real name....
friendofafriend
Active Member
I think I'm pretty well liked too. So no axes to grind against me that I'm aware of.
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Here's the key: don't use Disney devices to come here (even to look), don't reveal too much personal information (i.e. what attraction you worked at or character you played on a specific day/time period), and don't reveal the names or similar personal information about anyone you are talking about so as to identify you.
You should be fine if you just follow those rules.
friendofafriend
Active Member
That's what common sense would tell ya. But as they say common sense isn't always so common. I won't even use the company wifi on my own device to visit here.
asianway
Well-Known Member
There's a subset of churro cart jockeys in DL who have taken to tweeting pics of celebrities live in the parks - real names and their photos on their twitters
How are they not fired?
That's what common sense would tell ya. But as they say common sense isn't always so common. I won't even use the company wifi on my own device to visit here.
I know a lot of people who work for the company and feel that way about attaching to Disney's networks and their phones.
Frankie The Beer
Well-Known Member
When I perform a surgery on someone, I'm not allowed to take photos with my phone. No sympathy from me, sorry.
asianway
Well-Known Member
No idea - how are you supposed to report that stuff? Tag JFB on twitter?
Excellent question.
friendofafriend
Active Member
I don't think anyone is looking for sympathy or even to be able to post photos. The wording used in the sentinel article seems to be confusing people. This is not about disputing the importance of character integrity. As I said before you're not going to come across a performer worth their salt that thinks it's ok to identify themselves in a photo in which they aren't readily visible and identifiable. For the majority of us character integrity and the show are a huge matter of pride. This is simply about clarifying a previously unwritten and arbitrarily enforced/unenforced policy.
Or maybe I'm the one confused. The title of the article says "Disney policy requiring character confidentiality comes under fire" to me that seems misleading as the concept behind the policy is a cornerstone of our department.
I feel like I'm talking in circles and not sure if I'm even making sense anymore. I guess I just don't like the assumptions being made about our department. There are always going to be bad(or just plain stupid) apples but we're a real good hard working bunch devoted to making and preserving magic for millions of people. For me personally it's a matter of pride. Time for some fresh air and the real world. Enjoy the rest of your weekend folks!
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Goofyernmost
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A little while ago I worked in transportation at The Masters Tournament in Augusta, Ga. We were not allowed to divulge any information about the insides, pictures of the fairways and greens yes, but no expose type stuff. If you took a picture of a dumpster and posted it or explained it's presence in a Text or Tweet, and yes they did have dumpsters, but well hidden, you would be quickly escorted off the property and out of a job.
They demanded your addresses and monitored all social media 24/7 during the tournament. I did let my friends and family know that I was there and having a great time knocking off one of my bucket list items. The next morning I was told that I had come dangerously close to crossing the line of information allowed. How? I didn't say anything "inside" or divulge any secrets, I just said I was there and enjoying it. I guess it was more of a warning that it was better to not say anything at all least it be something they didn't want people to know. Why anyone would think that a golf tournament was of huge interest to people looking for something to Dis is beyond me.
They demanded your addresses and monitored all social media 24/7 during the tournament. I did let my friends and family know that I was there and having a great time knocking off one of my bucket list items. The next morning I was told that I had come dangerously close to crossing the line of information allowed. How? I didn't say anything "inside" or divulge any secrets, I just said I was there and enjoying it. I guess it was more of a warning that it was better to not say anything at all least it be something they didn't want people to know. Why anyone would think that a golf tournament was of huge interest to people looking for something to Dis is beyond me.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
My sister worked for the Augusta National for many years during and around (prep/post) the Masters Tourneys, as she lived there.
They've had that policy for a very long time. Just confirming it does exist, and is what was stated. What happens in the Masters...stays in the Masters <wink>.
Also, it's not just the employees that have limits. Cel phones, cameras, laptops, tablets, etc...aside from practice rounds (another reason why I prefer to go to the practice rounds) which at least allow cameras...are all banned.
I always weaseled my way out of having to photograph the Masters. Always a giant PITA and not worth the 12 hour days, etc.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I was supposed to go this past year, but backed out. My Dad used the badges instead.
It's pretty (unlike most of the rest of the city, and as I lived there over 10 years of my life, I'm educated enough to say that <grin>)...but it's also not that amusing. I'll stick with Practice Rounds and the Par 3 Tourney myself. I hate going during the actual tournament.
I've been 4 times...and it was exciting in the late 90s during the rise of Tiger, and watching Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus play. But...today, I really have no interest.
Now, Pebble Beach or Torrey Pines I'd love to see in person!