See Your Name on Poster in Rock N Roller Coaster Queue

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
Leaving aside my negative feelings toward this whole new "Storymaker" initiative or whatever it's officially titled, this new gimmick is just poor show for the Rock 'n Roller Coaster itself. The premise of the attraction is that you are going to see Aerosmith at the recording studio and end up recompensated with a limo ride to the concert for which the band is running late. The guests are not supposed to be playing a role in the story other than themselves. These new screens (and they look exactly like screens in those photos, not posters as would be thematically appropriate - another example of bad show) imply that guests are rock stars themselves, which totally contradicts everything that happens later in the preshow and the ride. Whoever approved this idea is clueless about storytelling and is simply grasping at straws to justify the use of new technology.

Good point. May have been better at the ride exit if they do it at all.
 

Doug Means

Well-Known Member
Leaving aside my negative feelings toward this whole new "Storymaker" initiative or whatever it's officially titled, this new gimmick is just poor show for the Rock 'n Roller Coaster itself. The premise of the attraction is that you are going to see Aerosmith at the recording studio and end up recompensated with a limo ride to the concert for which the band is running late. The guests are not supposed to be playing a role in the story other than themselves. These new screens (and they look exactly like screens in those photos, not posters as would be thematically appropriate - another example of bad show) imply that guests are rock stars themselves, which totally contradicts everything that happens later in the preshow and the ride. Whoever approved this idea is clueless about storytelling and is simply grasping at straws to justify the use of new technology.
hmmmm, i think its a great idea...as you are walking through the halls there are all types of old poster bills so one with my name on it would be cool in my mind. i believe that other stars do see other stars in concert sometimes. maybe they don't go through "normal" channels to get there but they do. Especially new rising stars. so, me seeing my name on a posters does not in anyway change the story line for me. your there seeing Aerosmith and as you walk through the hall you see your own poster, kool! And just one more of the small details not everyone will see but Disney has a way of throwing in there.
 

Mr. Peabody

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hmmmm, i think its a great idea...as you are walking through the halls there are all types of old poster bills so one with my name on it would be cool in my mind. i believe that other stars do see other stars in concert sometimes. maybe they don't go through "normal" channels to get there but they do. Especially new rising stars. so, me seeing my name on a posters does not in anyway change the story line for me. your there seeing Aerosmith and as you walk through the hall you see your own poster, kool! And just one more of the small details not everyone will see but Disney has a way of throwing in there.
Yes, a rising star so valuable to the record company that your name is put on a screen to be swapped out for the next guest who walks in after you leave. Nobody is playing along and buying into the illusion that these are posters, not screens. The interactivity is so impersonal that it's just asking too much to suspend disbelief in order to make the effect work. Furthermore, neither you nor anyone walking through those queue doors is a Prince or an Adele, so the choice of "Stephen" or some such as a stage name for a relative nobody strains credulity, to put it mildly.

In the pre-show, the band members' dialogue includes such lines as "We can't leave these people behind" and "You know how we feel about our fans". The guests are just that - music fans. Your theory relies too much on ambiguities in the pre-show dialogue and assumptions when a simpler explanation can and has sufficed for years, and no one is buying into it. Part of the magic, if you will, behind the attraction's premise is that the guests are just ordinary fans who are lucky enough to get a limo ride to the Aerosmith concert. Ask guests to believe that they, too, are professional musicians, and the magic diminishes a bit. One of the gags is that the band has to order a super-stretch limo to fit everyone. Again, it's asking too much to believe that you're in a room filled with rising stars in the music world. In contrast, you don't have to suspend disbelief all that much to buy into the illusion that you're being ushered to the concert in a huge limo with fellow music fans.

I also disagree with your characterization of the Storymaker posters as a "small detail not everyone will see". These interactive screens are staged so that guests will notice their names. But suppose we accept your premise that it's a small detail that only the fans will notice. Does it justify the money spent on the effect if few people are supposed to notice? I don't think so. Why not just leave the real posters then? They've done a better job at filling the role of staging detail for years.

These new posters for RNRC are a storytelling mistake and an example of technology being applied where it is not needed.
 

Doug Means

Well-Known Member
Yes, a rising star so valuable to the record company that your name is put on a screen to be swapped out for the next guest who walks in after you leave. Nobody is playing along and buying into the illusion that these are posters, not screens. The interactivity is so impersonal that it's just asking too much to suspend disbelief in order to make the effect work. Furthermore, neither you nor anyone walking through those queue doors is a Prince or an Adele, so the choice of "Stephen" or some such as a stage name for a relative nobody strains credulity, to put it mildly.

In the pre-show, the band members' dialogue includes such lines as "We can't leave these people behind" and "You know how we feel about our fans". The guests are just that - music fans. Your theory relies too much on ambiguities in the pre-show dialogue and assumptions when a simpler explanation can and has sufficed for years, and no one is buying into it. Part of the magic, if you will, behind the attraction's premise is that the guests are just ordinary fans who are lucky enough to get a limo ride to the Aerosmith concert. Ask guests to believe that they, too, are professional musicians, and the magic diminishes a bit. One of the gags is that the band has to order a super-stretch limo to fit everyone. Again, it's asking too much to believe that you're in a room filled with rising stars in the music world. In contrast, you don't have to suspend disbelief all that much to buy into the illusion that you're being ushered to the concert in a huge limo with fellow music fans.

I also disagree with your characterization of the Storymaker posters as a "small detail not everyone will see". These interactive screens are staged so that guests will notice their names. But suppose we accept your premise that it's a small detail that only the fans will notice. Does it justify the money spent on the effect if few people are supposed to notice? I don't think so. Why not just leave the real posters then? They've done a better job at filling the role of staging detail for years.

These new posters for RNRC are a storytelling mistake and an example of technology being applied where it is not needed.
hmmmm, anyway maybe I'm an old has been looking at one of my old posters, in my old studio that aerosmith is using now...i'm sorry it doesn't do anything for you or ruins the theming of it all for you. I've already ready many accounts of how people didn't notice these and would have to look into it the next time they ride. for me its just one more thing i like and will look for around the parks kind of like hidden mickey's - where is my name going to show up.
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
Yes, a rising star so valuable to the record company that your name is put on a screen to be swapped out for the next guest who walks in after you leave. Nobody is playing along and buying into the illusion that these are posters, not screens. The interactivity is so impersonal that it's just asking too much to suspend disbelief in order to make the effect work. Furthermore, neither you nor anyone walking through those queue doors is a Prince or an Adele, so the choice of "Stephen" or some such as a stage name for a relative nobody strains credulity, to put it mildly.

In the pre-show, the band members' dialogue includes such lines as "We can't leave these people behind" and "You know how we feel about our fans". The guests are just that - music fans. Your theory relies too much on ambiguities in the pre-show dialogue and assumptions when a simpler explanation can and has sufficed for years, and no one is buying into it. Part of the magic, if you will, behind the attraction's premise is that the guests are just ordinary fans who are lucky enough to get a limo ride to the Aerosmith concert. Ask guests to believe that they, too, are professional musicians, and the magic diminishes a bit. One of the gags is that the band has to order a super-stretch limo to fit everyone. Again, it's asking too much to believe that you're in a room filled with rising stars in the music world. In contrast, you don't have to suspend disbelief all that much to buy into the illusion that you're being ushered to the concert in a huge limo with fellow music fans.

I also disagree with your characterization of the Storymaker posters as a "small detail not everyone will see". These interactive screens are staged so that guests will notice their names. But suppose we accept your premise that it's a small detail that only the fans will notice. Does it justify the money spent on the effect if few people are supposed to notice? I don't think so. Why not just leave the real posters then? They've done a better job at filling the role of staging detail for years.

These new posters for RNRC are a storytelling mistake and an example of technology being applied where it is not needed.


To me, this is just a more high-tech version of the video screens on the exit ramp from space mountain. And I don't like those either. The problem is, they get the reaction I'm assuming WDI is looking for... People pay attention to them and point and talk and think a little bit less about how long they've been in the stand-by line because of FP+. They're a distraction. Story or continuity (or cheesiness) be darned.

It's a shiny object to stare at for a little bit to make you forget.
 

Cletus

Well-Known Member
Leaving aside my negative feelings toward this whole new "Storymaker" initiative or whatever it's officially titled, this new gimmick is just poor show for the Rock 'n Roller Coaster itself. The premise of the attraction is that you are going to see Aerosmith at the recording studio and end up recompensated with a limo ride to the concert for which the band is running late. The guests are not supposed to be playing a role in the story other than themselves. These new screens (and they look exactly like screens in those photos, not posters as would be thematically appropriate - another example of bad show) imply that guests are rock stars themselves, which totally contradicts everything that happens later in the preshow and the ride. Whoever approved this idea is clueless about storytelling and is simply grasping at straws to justify the use of new technology.
Exactly this!

It's almost as stupid as the Ghosts holding up a sign that reads "Headed to Florida!" Uhhhhh....you are already IN Florida!:confused:
 

Mr. Peabody

Well-Known Member
hmmmm, anyway maybe I'm an old has been looking at one of my old posters, in my old studio that aerosmith is using now...i'm sorry it doesn't do anything for you or ruins the theming of it all for you. I've already ready many accounts of how people didn't notice these and would have to look into it the next time they ride. for me its just one more thing i like and will look for around the parks kind of like hidden mickey's - where is my name going to show up.
Again, your explanations rely too much on assumptions that are too far-reaching to reasonably suspend disbelief.

Supposing for a moment that your anecdotes are representative of the whole, the failure to notice this effect can be attributed to guests' limited powers of perception, not the staging. This is not to that say I think your anecdotes are a representative sample. Your comparison to Hidden Mickeys is incorrect. These Storymaker screens are not charming Easter eggs for the fans. They are meant to be conspicuously part of the show, and I, for one, find the whole initiative gimmicky, unimaginative, incongruous, and more than a little narcissistic.
 

Mr. Peabody

Well-Known Member
To me, this is just a more high-tech version of the video screens on the exit ramp from space mountain. And I don't like those either. The problem is, they get the reaction I'm assuming WDI is looking for... People pay attention to them and point and talk and think a little bit less about how long they've been in the stand-by line because of FP+. They're a distraction. Story or continuity (or cheesiness) be darned.

It's a shiny object to stare at for a little bit to make you forget.
Insensitive as it is to point this out, the fact that WDW can not only get away with it but get praised for doing so speaks volumes about the caliber of the fan base and the average guest.
 
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Doug Means

Well-Known Member
Again, your explanations rely too much on assumptions that are too far-reaching to reasonably suspend disbelief.

Supposing for a moment that your anecdotes are representative of the whole, the failure to notice this effect can be attributed to guests' limited powers of perception, not the staging. This is not to that say I think your anecdotes are a representative sample. Your comparison to Hidden Mickeys is incorrect. These Storymaker screens are not charming Easter eggs for the fans. They are meant to be conspicuously part of the show, and I, for one, find the whole initiative gimmicky, unimaginative, incongruous, and more than a little narcissistic.
well I'm glad i live in a country where people can disagree with each other and they can move on without worry. i suppose you have a good time when your at WDW, its hard to tell. don't let this stuff bring you down, you can walk right by it and try to ignore it. thanks for sharing your opinion.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
I'm a big fan of privacy and I'm a big fan of moving forward with technology and increasing the "wow" factor at WDW and DL.

Animatronics were the state of the art in the 50s-70s. Moving towards realism over time and at shorter distance has evolved probably to the best state they can be. Technology, creating a social, communicative experience is where we are in the 2010s. There should be some "opt out" though for people who find this too personal. It's technically feasible.

Look at what kids and people do today. We snap pictures with everything and share them with our friends. This concept means that we are spending more time on our phones than time enjoying the experience. Maybe with this technology they can automatically post things to Facebook, or send in an email? That's the "wow" factor today.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
For me, this all sounds pretty cool. I suspect my kids will very much enjoy it.

But for those who prefer anonymity (we're not talking privacy here -- you're at a park with thousands of other people in a line where the nearest person is about 6 inches away), there absolutely should be a way to "opt out". Wouldn't be too tough, I don't think, to add this as an option where you are creating your account and activating your magic bands.
 
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