Security at the Park Entrance

[CAV]

Disagree. TSA which I know some who are employees do a responsible job that consistently keeps the flying public safe. May not have the best Pixie Dust customer service skills but I will take safety over that.

can you cite one terrorist TSA caught. I assure you, guns get past the checkpoint on a regular basis.

 

[CAV]

When's the last time a plane was hijacked departing the USA?

Thats the wrong question. The correct question is: When did TSA stop a terrorist?

 

[Lilofan]

can you cite one terrorist TSA caught. I assure you, guns get past the checkpoint on a regular basis.

When's the last time there was a hijack in the USA post 9/11/01?

 

[CAV]

Now look up how often TSA fails their own tests. They’re allowing more through than they catch.

A lot of what these systems find is things people forgot. They’re not stopping people who had imminent intent.

Bingo. Its irresponsible gun owners who forgot they had a firearm in their carry on.

 

[TalkToEthan]

regardless of what it actually says.

What our basic charter says on the matter is nebulous……..at best——so unclear that privacy rights aren’t even stated. Const. doesn’t say anything at all except for wholly ambiguous language like “due process” or “unreasonable searches and seizures”. And the meaning of those change depending on who got appointed by Chief and ultimately ratified by Senate.

Even the 14th doesn’t explicitly extend the Bill of Rights to states and their creatures (but most of us I would hope favor full incorporation.)

As for privacy one can not find the “objective truth” in the document because its language is vague and open.

 

[Chef Mickey]

As an attorney, I'd say you're dramatically misinterpreting the Constitution to make it say exactly what you want it to say, regardless of what it actually says.

Which isn't unusual, and you're free to do so, but you're certainly not stating any kind of objective truth about what the Constitution actually says.

You're not going to win many arguments if your "expert" opinion declares that our current political leadership and courts are doing a good job upholding the Constitution. It's laughable.

I'm not doing that. Our current courts are making the Constitution say what they want it to say. Probably 3/4 of what we currently spend money on is unconstitutional.

But, attorney on. You're just wrong.

 

[Chi84]

Bingo. It’s irresponsible gun owners who forgot they had a firearm in their carry on.

I’m grateful the TSA catches irresponsible gun owners and keeps them from bringing firearms on the plane.

 

[zurgandfriend]

Hello All,

Let me start by saying that again, I did not want to start a brouhaha. My DS and I had a wonderful trip and security was about what I expected. My souvenir shrapnel triggered the metal detectors. I stepped out of line got "checked-out" and proceeded into the parks or onto the monorail. I worn my veteran hat which saved me having to explain. Once I was cleared to proceed EVERY security guard thanked me for my service and I was saluted several times.

 

[John park hopper]

Guess it could be worse ---cavity searches

 

[Lilofan]

Guess it could be worse ---cavity searches

My friends from Colombia who arrived in Houston were subjected to interrogation in private rooms and had to submit for body X-Ray. One left the airport after that ordeal in tears.

 

[iamgroot61]

You keep use no the phrase “kids unwilling to exit their stroller”.

Presumably it is also policy not to expect parents to take a baby / toddler out of their stroller. Since I’ve never heard anyone say they were asked to do so.

Or to lift a child with a disability out of their stroller tagged as a wheelchair. Etc.

The expectation is that, if able and willing, persons are expected to exit their mobility vehicle. When a stroller with a child old enough to exit and walk through the scanning device on their own approaches, parents are told that everyone needs to pass through the scanner. At that point, they typically tell the kids to get out and everyone walks through. This frees the security staff to inspect the stroller (they are instructed to NOT reach into the bottom of a stroller with a child in it). The point is that the mobility device must be inspected. If the child is unwilling or unable to exit, parents are told to lean the child forward in their seat to reveal anything behind them, and then asked to pull everything out of the storage area in the bottom of the stroller. With scooters, most folks are able to briefly exit and walk through the scanner on their own. If not, supervisors are specially trained to walk them through some steps to allow an inspection (of their person) while seated in their scooter. Parents typically grab infants and carry them through the scanning device, but honestly, in my experience, very few infants are brought into the parks. The security host/hostess' job is to ask the question (sir/ma'am, are you able to walk through the scanner on your own). If not, the alternate process is done (security supervisor performs an inspection). Mobility devices do NOT go through, hence the policy.