HolleBolleGijs
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It's not that it's not the time. It's that we don't know what happened. Until we know for sure that this was a result of careless parenting, you have no business pointing fingers.
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Sad News: Three-year-old drowns at Art of Animation Pool
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It's not that it's not the time. It's that we don't know what happened. Until we know for sure that this was a result of careless parenting, you have no business pointing fingers.
kathy reinard
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It must be amazing to be a perfect parent - sounds like your kids are young. Let's see how you feel a few years down the road. Shame on you for having no compassion !
I'm sure that is very helpful and comforting to the family.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I don't think people realize how difficult it is to spot a drowning kid. I was on the high school swim team and during a team party our coaches son almost drowned, he was in a pool with about 100 competitive swimmers being chaperoned by a half dozen swim coaches and still almost drowned. Fortunately an assistant coach noticed and jumped in in his clothes because none of the people within feet of the kid noticed, a drowning kid and a playing kid look nearly the same from water level. No matter how vigilant someone thinks they are a busy pool is dangerous and not even the greatest parent can keep their kid in sight 24 hours a day, even if they think they can.
CaptainAmerica
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A three year old should not be *watched* from the pool deck. Ever. Mom and/or dad should have been IN the pool with him.
DisneyDreamer08
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A lot of people are assuming the child wandered through the gate by him or herself.. It is also quite possible that the child was already inside, swimming with one or both parents. The parents could have been searching in a bag for a towel, snack, etc, and the child could have just taken off. I have a four year old, I know how fast they can run. I have never been to AoA so I don't know of the lifeguard situation, but with a child that small, in a pool that I'm assuming was super crowded, it may have taken a moment for the lifeguard to spot a problem. A moment is all it takes.
When my daughter was about 3, we were at swim lessons, changing after class. I changed her first and then as I was changing, she started to wander out of our little changing area (no door, just a curtain), into the locker room. I got dressed as fast as I could, calling her back to me the whole time. When I was dressed I searched the whole locker room, and could not find her. Other parents saw me panicking and started looking as well. When we finally found her, she had exited the locker room, went down a hallway, up a flight of stairs and was finally stopped at the exit by another parent. Scariest 5 minutes of my life. I'm sure we have all been there.
When my daughter was about 3, we were at swim lessons, changing after class. I changed her first and then as I was changing, she started to wander out of our little changing area (no door, just a curtain), into the locker room. I got dressed as fast as I could, calling her back to me the whole time. When I was dressed I searched the whole locker room, and could not find her. Other parents saw me panicking and started looking as well. When we finally found her, she had exited the locker room, went down a hallway, up a flight of stairs and was finally stopped at the exit by another parent. Scariest 5 minutes of my life. I'm sure we have all been there.
Vegas Disney Fan
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My point isn't that the parents shouldn't watch their kid but that accidents happen sometimes. To simply blame the parents without knowing anything that happened is heartless and self righteous. Every kid wanders off, 99.99% of the time nothing happens and it's a non event, .01% of the time the kid gets hurt or killed and all the sudden everyone who's kid didn't die starts pointing fingers at the "terrible" parents.
My point is anyone that thinks this couldn't happen to them is kidding themselves, it's only by the grace of God or pure dumb luck that any of us weren't hurt or killed as a kid because at some point we all got away from our parents or put ourselves in compromising situations.
ToTBellHop
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Exactly. Something bad happening to a child does not immediately imply negligence. The fact that some parents are negligent does not give anyone a right to crucify all parents who have suffered loss.
Perhaps we can just accept that sometimes life is awful and that it's best to empathize with the parents who suffered the tragedy while being thankful that you, yourself, have been more lucky.
No. I waited for the bus alone in kindergarten in 1990. Apparently, my parents should have been holding me, rocking me slowly while I waited because I could have gotten hit by a car.
DisneyGigi
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No matter what the circumstances leading to this accident were it is absolutely heartbreaking! My prayers are with the child's family. They will second guess what they could have done differently for the rest of their lives. Terrible tragedy. 
I walked all the way until my senior year in high school when I could drive.
CaptainAmerica
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Not when you were three you didn't. IN A POOL.
A three year-old drowning absolutely does imply negligence. There's no possible scenario for a three year old to drown in a pool that does not involve negligence.
jaklgreen
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Someone was responsible for this poor child. Parent/grandparent, whoever that child was there with should have kept a better eye on them. Yes accidents do happen and if this was an older child then it might be a different story. But a small one like that should not be out of some ones sight. For those of you who say give the parent(or whomever was responsible for this child) a break that accidents happen. Would you feel the same way if the child died while in daycare or the YMCA? If anyone other then the parents where responsible for this poor child, all of you would be all over blaming them and saying to sue them or calling for their arrest for neglecting this child. How is it any different for a parent?
IRBIWDW
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My thoughts right now are with the family, the lifeguards and all the other guests who were there.
Nobody should judge anyone. There are no details. Nobody knows how or why they got separated or for how long or where they got separated.
It's easy for people not involved to say that would never happen to them. Maybe this family felt the same way.
Things happen so fast.
My thoughts are with the family and everyone else who was there.
Nobody should judge anyone. There are no details. Nobody knows how or why they got separated or for how long or where they got separated.
It's easy for people not involved to say that would never happen to them. Maybe this family felt the same way.
Things happen so fast.
My thoughts are with the family and everyone else who was there.
ToInfinityAndBeyond
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I had a feeling this would turn into an argument. It's incredibly sad news. If you have any respect for that child and this family, just let this one go.
CaptainAmerica
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What? How about "if you have any respect for that child, be angry at those who allowed this to happen"?
Somehow I picture you driving a hot rod in high school....
ToTBellHop
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Gross negligence, then. As in, any more negligence than one would place with the lifeguards. While neither the parents nor the lifeguards were technically diligent enough, the type of judgment seen in this thread is a luxury afforded to those of us who have not suffered the loss of a child. And compassion would be better placed than judgment as the latter serves no purpose here.
CaptainAmerica
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Come on. That's like saying I should be compassionate towards a drunk driver who crashes his car and kills his wife but feels really, really bad about it.
A red,1957 Chevy Bel-Air 4dr sedan with a 350, Turbo 400 transmision and a GM 12 bolt rear end with a 4.11 gear.
Safe to say that you hit the nail on the head.
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