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[drizgirl]

Exactly. While people go crazy over DVC trailers, Holiday Inn style resort refurbs, popcorn buckets, pay extra for after hours events and everything else, they just continue to laugh all the way to the bank while they give their “blue sky” presentations of nothing to come.

You left off the AP magnets.

 

[Nubs70]

Exactly. While people go crazy over DVC trailers, Holiday Inn style resort refurbs, popcorn buckets, pay extra for after hours events and everything else, they just continue to laugh all the way to the bank while they give their “blue sky” presentations of nothing to come.

DVC Double Wides????

 

[tissandtully]

I think it's an apt comparison. One has been beloved for decades, and despite not having high tech effects its elicits a strong emotional reaction from riders.

Pan is experiential- you're on your own flying over London and through Neverland. It doesn't need a story beyond that. Rise is strictly linear- just point a to point b. Which is fun but can get old. Pan highlights the strengths of early Imagineering and their ability to do a lot with a little.

Rise highlights the weaknesses of modern WDI. Rise's signature effect has been broken basically since it opened- the moving cannons at the end of the ride. It's plagued with frequent break downs and has to operate with reduced hours. It has lackluster capacity for the amount of space it takes up. It was also based on Disney's awful Star Wars trilogy. Rise would be a much stronger attraction if it used OT characters- Vader would look way better as an animatronic than Kylo Ren, Leia and R2 in the preshow, Han instead of Finn, Ackbar instead of fake Ackbar, etc.

Pan has existed as mostly the same experience for 50+ years. I'd bet good money that Rise doesn't look the same in 10 years- let alone 50.

Peter Pan has held up terribly unless you're like 5 years old. The effects are cheesy, the room is full of curtains that you can see all the time, the city scene is a joke of an illusion. I think ET at USF is way better in this regard and of course Rise is amazing technical achievement and every time I ride people are applauding at the end. Not sure which brand of pixie dust you are on, but I may have to get some of that too.

 

[tissandtully]

DVC Double Wides????

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Pretty much everything at FW is mobile in some way lol.

 

[tissandtully]

The cannons have last fully worked until December 2020.
The cannons have partially worked until January 2022.
So 2-ish years of cannons. DL had theirs working longer since it opened a bit later.

Only DL operates with reduced hours in the morning and night. WDW always operates theirs the entire day from park opening to close.

Rise has an operational capacity of ~1200/hour. Plus it has a really long extended queue. Would say that's decent for the "experience" it offers.

This is the first time I've heard the cannons as the signature effect, lol.

 

[tissandtully]

Bump

Wait…why weren’t you using your vacation club?

Sometimes Pop is cheaper than LBV hotels or Flamingo Crossings and not worth using the points or you've used them already for the year.

 

[tissandtully]

Odd.. I was in Pop Century the past October and December and could easily change the temperature from 66 - 78 degrees.

Yeah, I've never seen a thermostat locked to 72 degrees, that's just a weird issue if they experienced it. The motion sensors yes, very annoying, but I've experienced this at some Hilton and Marriott hotels as well, everyone likes to try to save money wow new concept.

 

[tissandtully]

Of course, Disney *could* borrow, and put itself in $100B debt like Comcast is in. (And people wonder why swaths of land in their parks are sitting idle.)

Don't mention the multiple empty show stadiums/theaters that have been abandoned for years... gasp!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, I've never seen a thermostat locked to 72 degrees, that's just a weird issue if they experienced it. The motion sensors yes, very annoying, but I've experienced this at some Hilton and Marriott hotels as well, everyone likes to try to save money wow new concept.

68 is the number

But it really can’t keep up to that when it’s 95 degrees of swelter

 

[tissandtully]

68 is the number

But it really can’t keep up to that when it’s 95 degrees of swelter

Yeah, people forget about the differential, that's all the matters.

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

This is the first time I've heard the cannons as the signature effect, lol.

Honestly. I’m thinking the lightsaber the cuts through the elevator, the shuttle trip to the star destroyed and the reveal, the Rey hologram. There’s dozens of things that are more impressive than “cannons moving and the car avoids them” lol

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

Peter Pan has held up terribly unless you're like 5 years old. The effects are cheesy, the room is full of curtains that you can see all the time, the city scene is a joke of an illusion. I think ET at USF is way better in this regard and of course Rise is amazing technical achievement and every time I ride people are applauding at the end. Not sure which brand of pixie dust you are on, but I may have to get some of that too.

I think PP is fine for what it is, but holding it up as this monumental achievement 60 years after it was first conceived is….something. Like for all the bellyaching around here about AA’s, the ones in PP qualify in the loosest sense of the term given how limited their movement is

 

[tissandtully]

I think PP is fine for what it is, but holding it up as this monumental achievement 60 years after it was first conceived is….something. Like for all the bellyaching around here about AA’s, the ones in PP qualify in the loosest sense of the term given how limited their movement is

I appreciate its historical significance, but if the wait is longer than 20 mins I'm not getting in line.

 

[tissandtully]

Honestly. I’m thinking the lightsaber the cuts through the elevator, the shuttle trip to the star destroyed and the reveal, the Rey hologram. There’s dozens of things that are more impressive than “cannons moving and the car avoids them” lol

The freakin drop!

 

[Jrb1979]

The freakin drop!

A drop track is nothing new. My local park has it on their dark ride.

 

[tissandtully]

A drop track is nothing new. My local park has it on their dark ride.

You seem fun.

 

[Touchdown]

To me it’s the blaster bolt effects. They were able to make something that looks movie accurate and 3D. I don’t care if it’s simple to achieve that effect wows me every single time.

 

[tissandtully]

To me it’s the blaster bolt effects. They were able to make something that looks movie accurate and 3D. I don’t care if it’s simple to achieve that effect wows me every single time.

Hey I've seen blaster effects at my local carnival, I guess they aren't cool lol

 

[Jrb1979]

Hey I've seen blaster effects at my local carnival, I guess they aren't cool lol

They aren't cool. IMO Disney is the top when it comes to theme parks. I expect things I can't get at my local park or carnival. Something like Tower of Terror

 

[tissandtully]

They aren't cool. IMO Disney is the top when it comes to theme parks. I expect things I can't get at my local park or carnival. Something like Tower of Terror

ok bro I don't really care what you think is cool, I was having fun with you (sorry that first edit seemed mean)