Ruining Disney - Nearly Complete!

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What did you expect? Where else would the jolly old elf work in the off season? It's the most magical place on earth outside the North Pole. In this economy even the big man has to work year-round.

 

[James J]

Curious why they don’t show these CM’s in their ads and they still pretend the parks are run like it’s 1975 with clean cut, fresh faced CM’s.

Which way to the deep fried Oreo stand and Zipper?!

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(Again, not a critique of these individuals, but management’s lack of consistent standards for appearance and professionalism)

Shaming people is pretty gross. Innocent CM's don't need you plastering their photo on a message board as examples of what not to look like, according to you.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Don’t they still have a published dress code? I think they are setting their own standards; maybe you just don’t agree with the ones they’ve set.

Yes, this is the most recent version that was updated in 2021 ...

https://disneycasting.net/downloads/wdpr/Disney_Look_Book.pdf

This latest revision was when they changed the beard policy (beards can be one-inch long; used to be six millimeters and only certain styles) and the visible tattoo policy. I think this was done in conjunction with adding the 5th Key.

You'll also notice that the line I highlighted in a previous post that was from the introduction of the 2014 guidelines ("The Disney Look is a classic look that is clean, natural, polished and professional, and avoids 'cutting edge' trends or extreme styles.") was replaced in 2021 with "The Disney Look is clean, polished, and approachable."

 

[Chi84]

What does their your children's awareness of the origins have to do with challenging the reality of it?

I bet if you asked them "Do you notice anything different about the staff when you are at Disney vs when we are at Six Flags?" they'd probably pickup on a thing or two.

Someone doesn't need to understand the the methods or whys to gain from the system, even if only subconsciously.

The cast's appearance, standards, and expectations have always been part of the show at Disney... the very reason they are called cast to begin with. The ideals of what image someone would project is almost always tied into someone's social and cultural sphere. Disney had the clean-cut, idealized, and stereotypical take on male and female appearance rooted in his Atomic American family of the 50s. A take that has been modernized over time, but frankly we all know it clinged more to it's origins than it was a progressive. A take that pushed back against counter culture and other movements in the decades after... a take that even alienated Disney many a time as the brand was felt dated and out of touch at times. And while Disney has largely inched it's way forward in modernization at several key points... it largely was still trying to project that wholesome, clean, sharp look one would expect from a young adult who was respectful and did what they were supposed to. That prototypical white shirt, clean cut 1950s male. No beards, no jewelry, no tatoos, etc.

Whether or not every person appreciated that look, or even cared, it doesn't negate that Disney standards came from that and was something they were quite diligent on until recent years.

As to the first point, I was replying to a specific poster. I don’t equate looking clean and appropriate with the “50’s ideal.”

As to the remainder, of course they would notice a difference in the quality of treatment by employees at Disney versus Six Flags. That quality has remained the same throughout our history of visits and hasn’t changed one bit with the new dress code.

I don’t challenge anything that you said; it’s your opinion and it’s based on completely accurate facts as to the origins of the Disney look.

I don’t mind tatoos. I don’t think they’re in any way related to being respectful and doing what you’re told to do. My son-in-law has tatoos. He got them when he was a search and rescue swimmer in the US navy. Hopefully they wouldn’t disqualify him from driving boats around Disney Springs lol.

 

[erasure fan1]

Someone doesn't need to understand the the methods or whys to gain from the system, even if only subconsciously.

I personally think this shows it face the most with Disneys approach to thematic integrity and the attention to detail. Lets say tower of terror was blue. I don't think many would really care that much if that's how it was originally constructed. As it stands, most would never have a clue that it was painted, to blend in the skyline from Epcot. It's not really a conscious thing to notice but that's the point. Little things on their own might not kill someones experience. But when all those things work in concert, it absolutely makes for a better experience. Even if the guest doesn't understand why. That was the Disney difference in my opinion.

 

[Chi84]

Yes, this is the most recent version that was updated in 2021 ...

https://disneycasting.net/downloads/wdpr/Disney_Look_Book.pdf

This latest revision was when they changed the beard policy (beards can be one-inch long; used to be six millimeters and only certain styles) and the visible tattoo policy. I think this was done in conjunction with adding the 5th Key.

You'll also notice that the line I highlighted in a previous post that was from the introduction of the 2014 guidelines ("The Disney Look is a classic look that is clean, natural, polished and professional, and avoids 'cutting edge' trends or extreme styles.") was replaced in 2021 with "The Disney Look is clean, polished, and approachable."

The dress code looks fine to me. So do the models, although they clearly haven’t been working several hours in the heat and humidity when the pictures were taken lol.

Is the problem the new dress code or the failure of employees to meet it? The latter is a constant battle for management everywhere.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

The dress code looks fine to me. So do the models, although they clearly haven’t been working several hours in the heat and humidity when the pictures were taken lol.

Is the problem the new dress code or the failure of employees to meet it? The latter is a constant battle for management everywhere.

For me? The new code is 99% of the problem. As you said, enforcing the code is a problem everywhere.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

Shaming people is pretty gross. Innocent CM's don't need you plastering their photo on a message board as examples of what not to look like, according to you.

Actually according to even Disney’s current policies, which is the point of the posts and this conversation.

(But your virtue signaling has been noted for all to see, thanks for contributing)

 

[Epcot81Fan]

And to show the farce Disney is today, here is the picture the company uses in their guidelines for “visible tattoos”.

I leave it up to the reader to determine how this compares to the pictures above.

 

[Br0ckford]

That was a lot.

Let’s ask Jesus what He thought of long hair and beards, and if they were appropriate family values.

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Super important, I suppose.

Your comments give off a very "I like to argue on Facebook " type of vibe.

 

[John park hopper]

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Well I guess you all can go to Universal then because they have much higher standards for park workers....ive never seen tattoos or long hair at universal /s Bee

And to show the farce Disney is today, here is the picture the company uses in their guidelines for “visible tattoos”.

I leave it up to the reader to determine how this compares to the pictures above.

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Far from reality

 

[Chi84]

Is the way CMs dress the primary thing that’s ruining Disney? It seems to be getting an inordinate amount of attention here when you consider the other reasons stated by the OP.

 

[John park hopper]

It'd just a reflection Disney doesn't give 2 sh__.