psukardi
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Eh, at least the pool should be full of chlorine. Now take a kid to Chuck. E. Cheese or something like that and you're asking for trouble. They'll leave with a strain of the swine flu or SARS if you're not careful.
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Restaurant not allowing kids 10 and under?
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Eh, at least the pool should be full of chlorine. Now take a kid to Chuck. E. Cheese or something like that and you're asking for trouble. They'll leave with a strain of the swine flu or SARS if you're not careful.
Tink0102
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Man, I have a child and even I won't go there! My niece gave my son a gift certificate to there for Christmas. I asked her when SHE planned to take him!
Hot Lava
Well-Known Member
Me either! As if any of those ball pits are ever cleaned.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Going to Disney and complaining about children is a lot like going to Las Vegas and complaining about the gamblers.
Think before you go and then suck it up, buttercup.
Depends on the complaints....
Yes there are kids in WDW. But is it not okay to expect their parents to exert some sort of control over them? Just because it's Disney World, does not mean children should be given carte blanch to act like loons and disturb and intrude upon other peoples vacations.
luv
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It's okay to want the children to behave. I'd like that, too.
Expecting it? I wouldn't. When you're going to a place that attracts kids, you really need to expect that some of them will have useless parents and that some of the children will be poorly behaved.
Going to a place full of children and expecting that they'll all be well-behaved is, in the words of Mr. Spock, not logical.
If you can't handle the kids - and all that comes with them - Disney really isn't the best place for you.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
It's okay to want the children to behave. I'd like that, too.
Expecting it? I wouldn't. When you're going to a place that attracts kids, you really need to expect that some of them will have useless parents and that some of the children will be poorly behaved.
Going to a place full of children and expecting that they'll all be well-behaved is, in the words of Mr. Spock, not logical.
If you can't handle the kids - and all that comes with them - Disney really isn't the best place for you.
I do expect it. But I don't think that should preclude me from complaining about it. I expect my taxes, but I still complain vociferously about them.
luv
Well-Known Member
On that matter, we are in complete agreement!!!I do expect it. But I don't think that should preclude me from complaining about it. I expect my taxes, but I still complain vociferously about them.
Sweet Melissa
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It's okay to want the children to behave. I'd like that, too.
Expecting it? I wouldn't. When you're going to a place that attracts kids, you really need to expect that some of them will have useless parents and that some of the children will be poorly behaved.
Going to a place full of children and expecting that they'll all be well-behaved is, in the words of Mr. Spock, not logical.
If you can't handle the kids - and all that comes with them - Disney really isn't the best place for you.
I think it's okay to have higher standards than that. I do expect parents not to be useless, though I also know to manage my expectations. I won't let some questionable parenting ruin anything for me. Would the Aliena Baby have irritated me? Yeah, but I've experienced worse at Coral Reef, and that didn't ruin my meal either.
luv
Well-Known Member
I'm going to have to go line by line.
Higher standards than what?
Sentence two: What does it mean?
Sentence three: good for you!
I don't understand the rest, but am glad your meal wasn't ruined.
Sweet Melissa
Well-Known Member
I think it's okay to have higher standards than to "expect that some [children] will have useless parents." I'm not saying that I hold strangers to the same standards to which I would hold myself, but I don't expect uselessness either. That's what I meant by managing my expectations. Yeah, I do expect people to be courteous and conscientious of others, but when they don't, I'm not going to waste my energy on it. I'm far too self-involved for that.
EvilQueen-T
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I agree. I don't have a problem at all when a child sits down and eats dinner like everyone else but when parents let them run around the venue and climb over the backs of booths I just grind my teeth. I have 2 grown children and 1 almost 10 y/o grandchild. Only one of my kids wouldn't have been suitable for that type of setting so when she was 2-3 we just didn't take her to a longer sit down meal...go figure she's the one getting married this year having a sit down dinner at disney and worried about having kids attend lol.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Thankfully I have never experienced these kids who are climbing over booths and under people's tables. I would be the one to tell the kids to get back to their parents and leave us alone, though. I have told kids in stores to do this before. You get the kids running wild up and down the aisles every once in a blue moon. I have told then to get back to their parents and stop running around.
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Ember
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Good for you! That's not sarcastic. I don't have the guts to say anything, but my husband is all over it. Not the first time because kids are allowed to be kids, but if it's continual with no parental intervention then he absolutely speaks up. Some of the behavior we have seen is ridiculous and also dangerous. He always points out the fact that we have two kids, one under the age of 5, and we are able to keep them from interrupting other people's meals so they should be able to do the same, especially when their children are older.To be fair though, we have also experienced really obnoxious adults and those are a bit harder to deal with because you can't scold the parents lol.
slappy magoo
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Slightly off-topic, but all the talk about "What Walt Would Have Wanted" regarding places for adults-only in the parks made me think of the legendary "Date Nite(s) at Disneyland."
In DIsneyland's infancy, they had tickets for couples for admission after 5pm through park closing, which was midnight on Friday and Saturday nights. These tickets included 5 attraction tickets per person (back when each attraction had its own separate ticket). Various locations within Disneyland would have live music for dancing. A vintage ad here specifies "Be you 16 -- 60 or just not telling - Nighttime at Disneyland is thrill time."
Now, some caveats: I don't know if Disneyland would actively keep kids from entering the park during Date Nite. I don't know if families were expected to leave at a certain time to make the park adults only. I don't know if families were refused admission to the places where bands were performing or if it were just assumed that you wouldn't want to be there if you weren't on a date. And despite the "16-60" jazz, I get the feeling if you were older than your early 20s and trying to enjoy Date Nite you might get some odd looks.
Having written all that, it's pretty clear that this was something where families - parents with small children - were not actively encouraged to join in. It was Date Nite, not A Date With Your Family Nite. And this was the mid-fifties, which meant it WAS what Walt Wanted. At least, it was what Walt permitted.
Back on-topic, I'd rather sit next to a 5 year old who is well behaved than a 35-year old who isn't
In DIsneyland's infancy, they had tickets for couples for admission after 5pm through park closing, which was midnight on Friday and Saturday nights. These tickets included 5 attraction tickets per person (back when each attraction had its own separate ticket). Various locations within Disneyland would have live music for dancing. A vintage ad here specifies "Be you 16 -- 60 or just not telling - Nighttime at Disneyland is thrill time."
Now, some caveats: I don't know if Disneyland would actively keep kids from entering the park during Date Nite. I don't know if families were expected to leave at a certain time to make the park adults only. I don't know if families were refused admission to the places where bands were performing or if it were just assumed that you wouldn't want to be there if you weren't on a date. And despite the "16-60" jazz, I get the feeling if you were older than your early 20s and trying to enjoy Date Nite you might get some odd looks.
Having written all that, it's pretty clear that this was something where families - parents with small children - were not actively encouraged to join in. It was Date Nite, not A Date With Your Family Nite. And this was the mid-fifties, which meant it WAS what Walt Wanted. At least, it was what Walt permitted.
Back on-topic, I'd rather sit next to a 5 year old who is well behaved than a 35-year old who isn't
lazyboy97o
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Disneyland was also just not viewed in the same manner. It was seen as much more of an adult entertainment venue than one intended primarily for young children.
Tink0102
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, I would imagine that the children that act this way are allowed to act this way regardless of where they are.....Disney World or not.
BuddyThomas
Well-Known Member
You obviously missed the entire point of this thread. Big surprise.It's okay to want the children to behave. I'd like that, too.
Expecting it? I wouldn't. When you're going to a place that attracts kids, you really need to expect that some of them will have useless parents and that some of the children will be poorly behaved.
Going to a place full of children and expecting that they'll all be well-behaved is, in the words of Mr. Spock, not logical.
If you can't handle the kids - and all that comes with them - Disney really isn't the best place for you.
PolynesianPrincess
Well-Known Member
Going to Disney and complaining about children is a lot like going to Las Vegas and complaining about the gamblers.
Think before you go and then suck it up, buttercup.
If when going to Disney I should EXPECT that children are going to misbehave, then there is something completely wrong with this world. Is that how it's going to be going forward? Kids are kids so we should just expect that they're going to act like hoodlums and be able to cry, scream, knock into other's tables, etc..? Thanks, but no thanks. If parents don't have the decency to discipline their children, then maybe THEY shouldn't be taking them anywhere. I understand that they pay good money for their trips too but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to disrupt others who are trying to enjoy their meal.
And comparing dining with children at WDW to gamblers in Vegas is completely different. In order to see gambling, you have to go into the casinos. One can ALWAYS avoid those in Vegas if they want to. But you can't avoid dining at WDW. You have to eat and unless you're at V&A, you can't avoid children.
Your posts make me laugh. You are one of the most condescending posters on this forum. Not everything you say is right, even though you might think it is, buttercup.
Phonedave
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If when going to Disney I should EXPECT that children are going to misbehave, then there is something completely wrong with this world. Is that how it's going to be going forward? Kids are kids so we should just expect that they're going to act like hoodlums and be able to cry, scream, knock into other's tables, etc..? Thanks, but no thanks. If parents don't have the decency to discipline their children, then maybe THEY shouldn't be taking them anywhere. I understand that they pay good money for their trips too but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to disrupt others who are trying to enjoy their meal.
And comparing dining with children at WDW to gamblers in Vegas is completely different. In order to see gambling, you have to go into the casinos. One can ALWAYS avoid those in Vegas if they want to. But you can't avoid dining at WDW. You have to eat and unless you're at V&A, you can't avoid children.
Your posts make me laugh. You are one of the most condescending posters on this forum. Not everything you say is right, even though you might think it is, buttercup.
Exactly - I may not be totally suprised that there will be a misbehaving child at WDW, especially given the heat, number of kids, and long days, but I do not expect it.
My expectations are that children should be supervised and if misbehaving, corrected - anywhere. My suprise when that expecation is not met varies from place to place. but not my expectation.
Even more to the point, I expect parents to behave accordingly. When you become a parent, you take on many responsibilites and roles, some of which are sleepless nights, diminished "adult" time, and interruped dinners/movies/shows etc because your kids are acting up and you have to remove them from the venue. It is part of the job of being a parent - I did it, and I expect others to do it.
Since, apparently, others DON'T do it, and WDW does not enforce it, adult only restaruants are desired.
-dave