Restaurant not allowing kids 10 and under?

psukardi

Well-Known Member
I did not know that "its disney" and "being on vacation" excuse gave you a free ticket to do horrible things (or act like a total to others).

I agree, this was meant to be snarky in response to a previous poster whom felt that way.

So I think at the end of the day the civilized and logical people realize there is a niche that Disney could fill. More adult options for dining. And I agree with the dress code.

We were at Brown Derby - and when you're seated near people in tank tops or PBR shirts it really kills the mood. A shirt with a collar goes a long way in life.
 

Phonedave

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I think part of the rationale behind V&A is that, maybe, they don't have a ton of choices children would even like (10-year-old me would have had a heart attack at the thought of eating, say, quail for dinner) AND it's a looooong meal. We were there for 2.5-3 hours and loved it, but I was trying to imagine my 10- and 13-year-old cousins there for so long...not sure they would have enjoyed it quite as much.

My oldest (who is now 15, would have been good with it at 10, but not my youngest. She will eat different things, and likes to get into conversations with the waiters about what is in the food and how it was prepared.

-dave
 

Phonedave

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I ended up cancelling our ADR at Cali Grill because I had such mixed feelings about it. I really wanted to bring my kids here so they could see the fireworks, but the ADR was for 9pm on a Friday night (only time available). While my kids are very well behaved, I felt like I would be getting evil eyes for bringing them there that late.

If you kids are well behaved, then there is no issue. IF they act up and you remove them, there still is no issue. If you ignore them while they make other diners uncomfortable - then there is an issue.

-dave
 

psukardi

Well-Known Member
There are plenty that if you kid acts up will have no problem with having you removed. That is the problem with WDW.

If restaruants would remove families with unruly kids (or better yet, maybe do some real parenting and remove your kids yourself (I sat in a car ONCE with each of my kids when they acted up while my wife and other kid continued to eat - they never did it again) then this would thread would not be an issue.

-dave

Could you imagine the backlash if Disney did this. My god, the outcries from the rooftops would be deafening.
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
I guess one reason I don't understand the need or the desire for adult only places at WDW is because as soon as I drive on property I'm not an adult anymore. I revert back to around 10 or so for the duration of my stay. I have to be an adult every day, every where except for when I'm at Disney.
As far as spending time with my son....I want to spend every minute I can with him, while I can. It won't be long before he is asking for the car keys and wanting to hang out with his friends instead of with his mom and dad.


But you ARE an adult. I highly doubt that you revert 100% back to 10 years old. Does somone walk you around the parks? Does someone remind you to go to the bathroom before getting in a long line? Do you take a nap on a bench? I doubt it. Despite the fact that you feel child like, you are not a child. You do not have meltdowns in the middle of a restaruant - or if you do you go to the bathroom. You also remain a parent, and if your child starts misbehving at dinner you do not join and and throw crayons with him, you tell hiim to stop.

If you cannot retain some aspects of adult hood while at WDW, then Disney CM's have every right to treat you as a child, including ejecting you from a restaruant when causing a disturbance.

-dave
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
I agree, this was meant to be snarky in response to a previous poster whom felt that way.

So I think at the end of the day the civilized and logical people realize there is a niche that Disney could fill. More adult options for dining. And I agree with the dress code.

We were at Brown Derby - and when you're seated near people in tank tops or PBR shirts it really kills the mood. A shirt with a collar goes a long way in life.
In the park Signatures are a problem.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

Well-Known Member
I am still amazed at how many people actually visit these parks without children. Are you all NUTS???

What do you mean? My fiance and I go every other year together, and I go every other year with friends/family. All adults. We stay on property at the more adult resorts (like CSR, Epcot resorts) and eat at signature restaurants. We've enjoyed days at the spa and time at the quiet pool. Disney is for everyone. It is one of the most popular honeymoon destinations in the US. In September we have seen more couples than families. It is for everyone.
 

Sweet Melissa

Well-Known Member
If you are going to restrict some restaurants to adults only after 7pm, then you should restrict adults without kids from attending character meals until after 7pm.
That's a trade I would gladly make. In all of our visits, we have never dined at a buffet or character meal. They aren't our scene at all. On one of our very first visits, we accidentally made a lunch reservation for a character meal, and when we figured out our mistake after checking in, we canceled our reservation and left. I don't feel like I'm missing out on that element of the parks at all.

All in all, I think Disney has struck a fine balance. We've never felt that our dollar is unwanted, and clearly families with small children don't feel that way either.
 

jw24

Well-Known Member
Obviously this topic has been polarizing to stay the least. Not just with restaurants, but discussions about adult only flights or seats on airlines and adult only movie theater showtimes for instance are also bringing up this topic of discussion.

Should there be more adult only dining options? Well, they always say variety adds spice to life and for restaurants in Disney World, it's no different. I mean, if they had really good food and offered different cuisines, I have no problems with it. But do they need it? Well, that is a question where there is no right or wrong answer for that. But I mean, aside from CRT, there has to be a good reason why Disney provides signature dining options to begin with. I would think most of the signature dining is geared towards adults anyway. Think about it. The entrees at the signature dining are not fine dining prices in the hundreds but they are considerably more expensive than those at a typical TS restaurant. I mean, 40-60 bucks per entree? That is a lot of money no matter how people in your party are dining! Plus for the most part, they are taking basic dinners and making them extraordinary and they only serve one meal of the day, usually dinner and nothing more. Do they have kids menus? Yes, but spending triple digits for food? Most families would never considering doing it usually because of prices or the concern that the food maybe too exquisite for their children or for their own being.

I am not going to engage in a useless debate about "What Would Walt Think?" and all that. But think of it like looking at selections on a regular restaurant menu. People are not going to dine out if a restaurant serves only one food and nothing else. Restaurants never survive that way. Certain dishes people will order more often than others and not everyone is going to order the signature dish or award winning ones. But they need options and to enjoy the experience, they need them! A food item from a restaurant will never please every patron or every food critic but if you're able to strike a balance between appealing to new customers as well as keeping your loyal customers happy and satisfied, then it works better. (That is something I feel a lot of people wish Disney management would start doing more.)

Nevertheless, let me say this: Every action you take is supposed to have a purpose. For a restaurant, you choose to eat at one over other choices for several reasons. Price, menu, good reviews, wanting to spend quality time with family, friends or loved ones and every once in a while, a craving that trumps everything. So you are spending a lot of money to eat out at a place where the restaurant is supposed to be the main focus and that includes the hopefully great tasting food, great drinks, great service, good decor, etc. You're not forking over money to see anything unwanted and that includes rude patrons (Whether they are children or adults), being mistreated unfairly by the restaurant service or anything that causes a scene in a negative way. Or worse, you're the one causing a scene that makes you or your party the subject of unwanted attention! Point is, the main show is what matters, not the unwanted sideshows. Restaurants are no different than seeing a live show or a movie honestly. Do you pay 300 dollars for the theater to see a great play or to see someone talking loudly on a cell phone in the middle of it? I would think all of you would say the first option. Why? Because seeing a show has a purpose of entertainment and enlightening and someone disregarding the civility and manners as well as being unaware of everyone else and the surroundings, whether it's intentional or not, ruins not just your purpose of being entertained but everyone else's. (Maybe even that particular person's experience is also ruined, too.)

Bottom line is, for everyone, be mature and conscientious, be aware of your surroundings and above all, treat all people with respect and civility.
 
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s&k'smom

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Before I read the rest of the comments here is mine, I too am a parent and think the idea of age restrictions is awesome. My DH and I choose a BB Inn specifically because 10 and under are not allowed. As for kids not behaving in restaurants, believe me we have walked out of a few when my son was let's say a challenge, I think why people get upset well at least me is that your kid is screaming and crying and throwing and fussing and parents either one won't leave the restaurant, or try to calm a kid while at the table, or what we witnessed at the Mickey's Backyard Barbecue last October, parents determined to get the pix of Mickey and Minnie with the kid and poor baby is screaming and crying and they sat they kid there and had the pix taken.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
My 2 cents: it would be nice if they had a few more adult only options at night for dinner. It's WDW so you aren't getting away from kids and strollers completely, but I see no issue with at least turning places over to 21+ after say 9PM. Sure some people choose to keep kids up for late dinner, but I'm not proposing all places, just a few more than 1 so there would still be plenty of places for kids to eat late night. I'm a parent of 2 kids (4 and 7) and I personally wouldn't make a reservation after 9PM for dinner somewhere anyway, but if people want to there are still plenty of options.
 

Hot Lava

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If you kids are well behaved, then there is no issue. IF they act up and you remove them, there still is no issue. If you ignore them while they make other diners uncomfortable - then there is an issue.

Exactly.

I have always hated and resented kids who were running around and/or yelling and screaming, with parents doing nothing. Especially with the running around, it is flat out dangerous. And pfft! to people when they tell you that it is b/c you do not have kids and do not understand. Even before I had a kid, I had a lot of little cousins, with which we dined out often over the years. Still hate it now that I do have a kid, and I work hard to get mine to behave, or I take him out of the restuarant. It is that simple.

This whole adults only thing has come up again recently with a restaurant in NYC. A restaurant (cannot recall the name) is about $200/pp and you must pay it up front. A couple recently brought their 8 month old and the chef mused on his twitter about whether they should ban children.

I have no problem with restaurants that want to put age restrictions on patrons. If they want to provide a kids-free atmosphere, so be it.

EDIT: Sorry, computer went wonky on me and posted before I was ready.

If I take young kids to a fine dining, I would go early (5pm) and be prepared to leave at any time if necessary b/c of behavior. I am all for people teaching their kids how to behave in restaurants. But i think it is polite to go early (and also less chance of your child being tired and cranky) so as to avoid the large adult crowds. It also gives you a bit more latitude on the "teaching" part, as a restaurant is less likely to be crowded.

As to the example recently, 8 months is too young for fine dining. There is no teaching a child that age anything about appropriate restaurant behavior. I feel those will be the parents that will be letting that child run wild in the coming years.
 
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rnese

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Dined at Monsieur Paul. There was an adult couple a few tables away. HE was talking on his smart phone with his mouth full, SHE was constantly chewing with her mouth open and her perfume was entirely too strong. Totally spoiled the ambiance. Conclusion: ALL adults lack the ability to dine at fine-dining options. (Sarcasm intended)
 

Tink0102

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But you ARE an adult. I highly doubt that you revert 100% back to 10 years old. Does somone walk you around the parks? Does someone remind you to go to the bathroom before getting in a long line? Do you take a nap on a bench? I doubt it. Despite the fact that you feel child like, you are not a child. You do not have meltdowns in the middle of a restaruant - or if you do you go to the bathroom. You also remain a parent, and if your child starts misbehving at dinner you do not join and and throw crayons with him, you tell hiim to stop.

If you cannot retain some aspects of adult hood while at WDW, then Disney CM's have every right to treat you as a child, including ejecting you from a restaruant when causing a disturbance.

-dave
You missed the point I was trying to make, but really it is not important enough to me to continue discussing this. I could care less if there are adult only places or not, if they add more or not. The only thing about this entire thread that got under my skin was the assumption that ALL children under a certain age are brats and don't know how to behave.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
You missed the point I was trying to make, but really it is not important enough to me to continue discussing this. I could care less if there are adult only places or not, if they add more or not. The only thing about this entire thread that got under my skin was the assumption that ALL children under a certain age are brats and don't know how to behave.

I agree with your point that not all kids are brats or misbehave. I know my kids are perfectly capable of sitting in a nice restaurant and behaving well and I think most kids are. If my kids do melt down I would leave. I think most parents would.

For me anyway it's not just about the children's behavior. It's about the atmosphere and the vibe of the place. Sometimes adults just need a place to get away and be grown ups. There are lots of adults at WDW for special occasions like anniversaries, engagements, weddings or just an adult weekend getaway. My wife and I went to our favorite steakhouse (the type of place I usually only eat at when my company is picking up the tab) for our 10 year anniversary (the plans to go to Vegas fell through when we realized nobody was crazy enough to take the kids for a whole weekend:(). We had a 9PM reservation and were just happy to get out just the 2 of us for a nice relaxing adult dinner. When we were seated we got a booth and of course the only kids in the restaurant that late were seated right next to us. I can't say they were poorly behaved or anything, but they were kicking my seat a little and had a few loud outbursts. We were just thrilled to be out on our own but it did take a little away from the atmosphere and the vibe of the night. I guess my whole point is that kids, even if they are well behaved, change the atmosphere of a place and in even small ways can have a negative impact if you are looking for an adult only experience. In other words the kid doesn't have to be running around screaming or having a tantrum.

As I stated before this is WDW we are talking about so expecting a lot of kid free time is unrealistic. If you want that go to Vegas (and bring me with you;)). However, there are so many restaurants to choose from that having more than 1 be adult only after 9PM would not be a terrible hardship on families with kids looking to eat out somewhere nice late at night and would satisfy those who want an adults only nice dinner out.
 

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