Repainting of Epcot Central Plaza?

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
If the average guest didn't become lost each time they blink then color coding wouldn't be necessary.

Meh, I am not that gullible or malleable. Future World is not nearly as difficult to navigate as Animal Kingdom where all the buildings are painted and themed similarly which conflicts with the FW excuse. The MK has so many twists and turns along with paths and guests can follow maps for those parks. The Studio's has a very bizarre design from Echo Lake back and to the Streets. Epcot is easy, turn right from main path or turn left, it is a pie cut in half.

The Disney half pie color theming was a management decision Disney continues to thwart on the backs of guests when in reality it was just another poor choice of imagineering. I've heard this rhetoric that insults the guests intellect attempting to push and deflect blame on guests but in the end Future World and its theming choices is all on Disney. Amazingly guests at rope drop can navigate there way quickly to Soarin or Test Track. In the evening they can walk a straight path to Future World.

Some are just too eager to believe the rhetoric Disney puts out there and believe guest are that inept when visiting Epcot and not the other parks. I'm too astute to be taken in by such hyperbole and pass this Disney's verbiage along as gospel.
 

Kman101

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I guess because I have visited the parks enough (and many times solo), I know exactly where to go? LOL. I've never felt the parks are all that hard to navigate but I guess I can understand with kids, or with a bunch of people (and caught up in a sea of people around you), it could be distracting and confusing to a degree.

Or first timers of course. I imagine it would be VERY confusing (though I don't see how Epcot could be, or the Magic Kingdom or even DHS, it's such a small park!)

AK does have a weird layout though, so I understand that totally. I do get turned around a bit there. And I always forget about Dinosaur until I stumble across it. It seems so out of the way and pushed into a corner. How I can forget a ride, I don't know LOL
 

Communicore

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I know I'm crazy, but I could actually get on board with this. Something closer to the 1982 design would be best, of course, but this isn't bad to me. If they did this and a matching blue set on the other side, I'd be OK. The problem is, there are like ten other colors they've slapped on in random parts that you can't see here. Still don't know why these buildings needed stripes.
The people in this pic are standing in what used to be part of the reflective pool, correct?

I actually like the colors now. They remind me of like, a pantone, or a swatch, you know, something colorful like that.
 

Omnispace

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Certainly is festive! Best part is that they don't even have to paint the entire building
The people in this pic are standing in what used to be part of the reflective pool, correct?

I actually like the colors now. They remind me of like, a pantone, or a swatch, you know, something colorful like that.

One of the reflecting pools was about where those planters are in the background -- reflecting pools surrounded by tall trees.
 

DLFT

New Member
That is some sad state we are in. Having to color code EAST and WEST? For real?
A lot of people assume that anything "west" would be on the left side and anything "east" would be on the right, just like it would be on any normal map. Since you enter from the North instead of from the south, its actually the other way around, which might confuse some people. I always thought calling the two halves of FW something other than West and East would be a good idea. Not sure about the paint scheme in general, though. Will take some getting used to.
 

Tom Morrow

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Yep, people tend to think of North as "the direction I entered the park." Also it just makes sense. Unlike at, say, MK, where Tomorrowland is obviously Tomorrowland, there is almost nothing to visually distinguish FWE from FWW.

(side note - for some reason FWE is green on the inside and FWW is blue, meaning they're the opposite of what they should be. A massive oversight?)
 

Tom Morrow

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I know I'm crazy, but I could actually get on board with this. Something closer to the 1982 design would be best, of course, but this isn't bad to me. If they did this and a matching blue set on the other side, I'd be OK. The problem is, there are like ten other colors they've slapped on in random parts that you can't see here. Still don't know why these buildings needed stripes.
Since taking this photo, more green has been added to the patch of leftover pink on the right. It looks better than in this photo now.
 

Kman101

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That actually isn't completely awful (lol) so I'm curious to see the updated area in a picture. Seems they're trying to adjust and change things a bit.
 

Figment2005

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Meh, I am not that gullible or malleable. Future World is not nearly as difficult to navigate as Animal Kingdom where all the buildings are painted and themed similarly which conflicts with the FW excuse. The MK has so many twists and turns along with paths and guests can follow maps for those parks. The Studio's has a very bizarre design from Echo Lake back and to the Streets. Epcot is easy, turn right from main path or turn left, it is a pie cut in half.

The Disney half pie color theming was a management decision Disney continues to thwart on the backs of guests when in reality it was just another poor choice of imagineering. I've heard this rhetoric that insults the guests intellect attempting to push and deflect blame on guests but in the end Future World and its theming choices is all on Disney. Amazingly guests at rope drop can navigate there way quickly to Soarin or Test Track. In the evening they can walk a straight path to Future World.

Some are just too eager to believe the rhetoric Disney puts out there and believe guest are that inept when visiting Epcot and not the other parks. I'm too astute to be taken in by such hyperbole and pass this Disney's verbiage along as gospel.
Just because you don't believe it does not mean it isn't true. The average guest DOES NOT read signage, remember obvious landmarks, or pay attention to anything outside of their tiny vacation world. I have first hand experience with this in both Epcot as a CM and now transportation. Disney does EVERYTHING to try an make the guest experience easier, and it seems that most of them ignore every attempt because they feel "They know better".
 

note2001

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Just downloaded Color Oracle, and have to say, this is one of the only times I've been envious of the colorblind. These colors don't look bad in any of the three types of color blindness it mimics. It's just bad to my eyes. Mental note to watch the people, fountains and sky, not the buildings.
 
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PREMiERdrum

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Since taking this photo, more green has been added to the patch of leftover pink on the right. It looks better than in this photo now.

I think weeding out the pink, salmon, and mauve tones sprinkled in could help this a little bit.

Goodness, if west (home to the "natural" pavilions) had browns and greens, and east (home to the "science" pavilions) had blues and grays... that could almost work. I still wouldn't love it, but it would be closer to something that made sense.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Just because you don't believe it does not mean it isn't true. The average guest DOES NOT read signage, remember obvious landmarks, or pay attention to anything outside of their tiny vacation world. I have first hand experience with this in both Epcot as a CM and now transportation. Disney does EVERYTHING to try an make the guest experience easier, and it seems that most of them ignore every attempt because they feel "They know better".

I am not as susceptible to Disney's excuse making propaganda nor do I advocate for Disney by supporting and spreading these type of excuses for them, I've never been a Disney minion. Early on Disney also stated Guests wanted and requested My Disney Experience type of services because guests wanted to plan every moment of their vacations. Disney went onto say guests stated it was to stressful to vacation without a set schedule planned months in advance. I didn't buy into that propaganda either. A small percentage of guests still spread this propaganda also and accept Disney's reasoning as Gospel too.

We disagree, I don't believe it is necessary to paint guests as that illiterate. I just don't support the mindset. Sure guests can get turned around but with the abundance of CMs and information booths at park entrances it is easy enough for the few lost guest to say which way to Test Track, which way to the Land. It isn't like these guests are lost in the Grand Cannon. I ski, there are maps of runs, signage for difficulty. They don't dye a mountains snow Green and Blue because patrons are inept.

Disney is entertaining when they they imagineer excuses for blunders like this. I give them kudos when they can convince some guests it is their fault they had to do this. In reality very few guests are that gullible to accept this explanation and Disney counts on minions to spread the message that their clientele is so illiterate that they have to color code Future World.
 

DinoInstitute

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I know I'm crazy, but I could actually get on board with this. Something closer to the 1982 design would be best, of course, but this isn't bad to me. If they did this and a matching blue set on the other side, I'd be OK. The problem is, there are like ten other colors they've slapped on in random parts that you can't see here. Still don't know why these buildings needed stripes.
I also am kind of a fan of this...I just dont know how i feel about all that green on the left o_O
 

Figment2005

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I am not as susceptible to Disney's excuse making propaganda nor do I advocate for Disney by supporting and spreading these type of excuses for them, I've never been a Disney minion. Early on Disney also stated Guests wanted and requested My Disney Experience type of services because guests wanted to plan every moment of their vacations. Disney went onto say guests stated it was to stressful to vacation without a set schedule planned months in advance. I didn't buy into that propaganda either. A small percentage of guests still spread this propaganda also and accept Disney's reasoning as Gospel too.

We disagree, I don't believe it is necessary to paint guests as that illiterate. I just don't support the mindset. Sure guests can get turned around but with the abundance of CMs and information booths at park entrances it is easy enough for the few lost guest to say which way to Test Track, which way to the Land. It isn't like these guests are lost in the Grand Cannon. I ski, there are maps of runs, signage for difficulty. They don't dye a mountains snow Green and Blue because patrons are inept.

Disney is entertaining when they they imagineer excuses for blunders like this. I give them kudos when they can convince some guests it is their fault they had to do this. In reality very few guests are that gullible to accept this explanation and Disney counts on minions to spread the message that their clientele is so illiterate that they have to color code Future World.
If what you are saying is true, then I would never have to answer the question: "where does this monorail go" at the TTC. Guests literally walk under a 10 foot wide sign that says Magic Kingdom Monorail or Epcot Monorail in order to reach me at the top of the ramp. If what I was saying was not true, then these guests would ALL KNOW where the monorail went. I understand if the guest is from a non-English speaking country and can't read our language, but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about guests who actively choose NOT to take advantage of everything that Disney has laid out in front of them to make maneuvering the property easier. It's not Disney propaganda being spread by minions of the mouse, it is fact and you can ask ANY cast member and get the same answer.
 

tirian

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If what you are saying is true, then I would never have to answer the question: "where does this monorail go" at the TTC. Guests literally walk under a 10 foot wide sign that says Magic Kingdom Monorail or Epcot Monorail in order to reach me at the top of the ramp. If what I was saying was not true, then these guests would ALL KNOW where the monorail went. I understand if the guest is from a non-English speaking country and can't read our language, but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about guests who actively choose NOT to take advantage of everything that Disney has laid out in front of them to make maneuvering the property easier. It's not Disney propaganda being spread by minions of the mouse, it is fact and you can ask ANY cast member and get the same answer.
You are both correct. Guests frequently ignore signs, and modern Disney spins propaganda to justify poor decisions.

But it isn't Disney's job to make things hideous and god-awful bizarre to make sure Guests know where they're going. Plus I've never heard of anyone who cared whether they were in FW East or West. It's a ridiculously easy park to navigate; and if someone has a hard time finding a FW pavilion, that person shouldn't be allowed to mingle with other human beings.
 

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