ToTBellHop
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If enough people do that, we can indeed enjoy masks indefinitely.
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ToTBellHop
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It will continue to spread. The vaccines are (thus far) 100% effective against death from COVID-19 and about as effective against hospitalization. If we can knock down COVID-19 to a flu situation, masks and distancing go away.
We manage the flu mutating all the time.
Keep in mind, the JnJ vaccine, which is not the best vaccine, is still 57% effective at preventing illness against the S. African strain. That is to say, it’s still more effective than the flu vaccine.
We need to get back to reminding government officials that they our are representatives, not our leaders. We dictate what is to be done and they help implement it, not the other way around.
Mac Tonight
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But I thought we were supposed to stay in our homes...
ToTBellHop
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That ended 1/25/21. Your driveway is safe.But I thought we were supposed to stay in our homes...
Can we get rid of masks but please keep some form of distancing? I have admittedly been enjoying the personal space. And for those in wheelchairs and ECVs, the clear aisles in stores and walkways are a huge benefit that shouldn't be overlooked.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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Agree. I’m just saying based on current rates of vaccine hesitancy I don’t foresee us getting to flu-level stabilization for a minimum of 18-24 months at best. And that’s assuming no vaccine resistant variants emerge.
But hey, we have smart medical folks here that know more than I do...
Californian Elitist
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Disneyland will more likely than not reopen with mask mandates. Masks forever though? No.
ToTBellHop
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Please! I never want to hear a CM telling a stranger to be 2 inches from my butt again in line for a ride. 6 feet is a bit much, but I’d love 3 feet between groups in the future.
Ok, so I’ve researched the science extensively from the epidemiological side and I’ve also spoken with public health officials. Epidemiologists want there to be no infections (that’s their goal as scientists), so they fixate on spread and mutation and come to conclusions that might work on lab rats but not in society. Public Health officials are responsive to how society functions. If we get to a point where everyone who wants vaccine (and even the fence sitters who will come over to the light side this summer) has received it (and we must include kids), hospitalizations and deaths will fall dramatically. At that point, they will no longer be able to mandate public health measures as there will be no public support.Agree. I’m just saying based on current rates of vaccine hesitancy I don’t foresee us getting to flu-level stabilization for a minimum of 18-24 months at best. And that’s assuming no vaccine resistant variants emerge.
But hey, we have smart medical folks here that know more than I do...
We won’t (and can’t) keep schools, businesses, and the rest of society closed over people who claim they don’t wear seatbelts because “GOVERNMENT CONTROL!”
There won’t be an overnight return to normality, but you’ll start to feel it in May and things will feel more and more normal as we head into the holidays.
mharrington
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They wouldn't really remove Peter Pan or the Tiki Room, would they? They're classics.
el_super
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Yeah well... I'm still waiting for the bag checks to go away.
el_super
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By the time the park reopens? No. Someday in the future? Possibly. Nothing lasts forever.
I considered Splash Mountain to be a classic as well. I doubt they'd get rid of Pan entirely but we'll likely lose the natives.
Boy, I won't miss the crowds! Also, watching folks reading a map makes me think they've already lost the battle if they didn't research fast passes, single rider and study what rides are where before they walked into a crowded park.
That's a significant issue with modern Disneyland. Between Fastpass and Maxpass, Photopass, Dining reservations, Dining packages for shows, fastpasses for shows that have different rules then normal Fastpass- how is someone who's never been before supposed to have a great experience?
Disstevefan1
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The Mask requirement is so insignificant compared to all the changes we have seen and will see in both WDW and eventually DLR.Pardon my ignorance, but is it of current belief that masks will still be needed later this year, even when the vaccine is widely available and everyone who wants it has been able to get it?
I just want my old life back.
There were so many losses in entertainment “due to COVID” at WDW, many never to return, and If they return, will return less than they were.
The loss of the AP as we know it at DLR, I am betting there will no longer be a “go anytime” AP and going forward there will always be blackouts and park reservations needed, well after the pandemic is long gone.
The loss of Magical Express at WDW.
I am betting, WDW AP will also be packed with restrictions, blackouts and require reservations.
We will see what happens...
I've been going on and off since 1965 and I still pay the $8 for a subscription to Touring Plans and run plans to optimize my day when I'm tour-guiding family. I also always check the crowd levels to pick the best day to go. Having said all that, I am a mildly OCD engineer.
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Watching some of this video literally MADE my day, thanks for sharing.....was supposed to visit there last September for first time and just hearing the sounds and seeing all the greenery was a great escape.....
.....can't wait to be there in person someday....
Brer Panther
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Why does every thread on this site about the pandemic bum me out?
I wouldn't put it past them.
Mac Tonight
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Because the pandemic is a total bummer!
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