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EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure to transition to 2D with brief refurbishment in November 2025

MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Binocular vision isn't the only way to fool the brain you're watching something 3D.

Coordinated parallax can do just as good (if not better) job, like it does on the Guardian's tower in DCA.



There's also multi-plane photography pioneered by good ol' walt.
 
mergatroid

mergatroid

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Having ridden the Paris version last week without the glasses I have to say that it lost next to nothing personally and gained by not having to put the glasses on over the glasses I wear normally for my vision and seeing the sets more clearly without the 3D glasses on. Apart from the image floating at the beginning (which never really made the ride so isn't really missed for me) there wasn't anything that I felt was inferior at all and was nice not having to wear the 3D glasses so I felt it a better ride. As I say the only 'effect' missing was the floating character at the beginning but again that didn't bother me in the slightest as I've never marvelled at that effect and thought about how it was a major part of the attraction, just one of many moving parts.

Again the freedom of not having to put 3D glasses on, seeing the props a lot clearer without those glasses versus the only 'downside' of the effect at the beginning not looking the same, I personally prefer the 2D version Paris now has. Others can argue differently as it's subjective but at least I'm talking about it having ridden both versions so can honestly give it a review having experienced both rather than an opinion having not.
 
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Tom P.

Tom P.

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I've always thought of 3D as kind of a "fad" technology that comes in and out of favor, but never really seems to have staying power. Just go to any movie theater and look at how many 3D showings of a film they have vs. the 2D showings. When given the option, a majority of people seem to prefer 2D. I doubt that most guests will perceive this as a downgrade or be bothered by it.

Now, in full disclosure, everything is 2D for me. I only have one good eye, so I can't do 3D effects. Never have been able to. Therefore, this modification changes absolutely nothing for me. I'm just speculating based on my observations of the popularity of 3D with audiences in general.
 
Biff215

Biff215

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I like what they did with Runaway Railway but not sure the same thing applies here. While the Remy sets are decent, they’re not layered in the same way since it was designed for 3D. I hope it provides at least a similar experience, if not improved.
 
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Here's an interesting fact: The ride is meant to be shown in 3D with shots designed with that intent.
Here's another: Passive 3D projection is not only attainable with a single projector, it is the preferred cost-effective method.
Another: Polarized glasses can be manufactured to provide non-3D viewing for guests.

This is purely financially driven.
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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It’s funny as my initial read on this was an improvement overall. My wife, who isn’t bothered by motion sickness typically, can’t enjoy certain parts of this ride because of the 3D. Also, if this clarity and crispness of the new 2D tech is what is used for Tiana’s family members in the final scene for TBA, I am in. That is one part of that finale scene that always stuck out to me. They are so bright and crisp that they have a 3D appearance to me.

We can disagree as to whether this is better or worse. If the screens are brighter, more props are added and less people get motion sickness, I chalk it up as an improvement. It’s becoming site wide at this point with ride upgrades. Now, along with this, TT and FEA, if they could just upgrade Communicore Hall, the central spine and the planter that should have been a freaking fountain, we will really be on to something. Oh, and by upgrade I mean completely raze and start over again, that would be awesome! Please and thank you!
 
BlindChow

BlindChow

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Tom P. said:
I've always thought of 3D as kind of a "fad" technology that comes in and out of favor, but never really seems to have staying power. Just go to any movie theater and look at how many 3D showings of a film they have vs. the 2D showings. When given the option, a majority of people seem to prefer 2D. I doubt that most guests will perceive this as a downgrade or be bothered by it.

Now, in full disclosure, everything is 2D for me. I only have one good eye, so I can't do 3D effects. ...
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I don't think you can compare regular films and physical theme park rides. The expectations are completely different.

People aren't expecting to be in a movie when watching it. Theatrical films aren't presented with the idea that you are there in the frame with the characters and, for the most part, not shot with an optimal 3D viewing experience in mind. (In fact, modern 3D is usually something applied to a 2D film afterwards.)

When on a ride, however, people do want to be part of the world they're experiencing. They don't want to feel like they are just watching a screen like when they're in front of their TV at home. They want to feel like they are actually flying on a Banshee on Pandora or watching Spider-Man battle villains on the streets of New York. That's what 3D provides. It gives a more immediate visceral experience than if it were a flat projection. It's the difference between animatronics/sets and painted plywood flats.

I think your last sentence is the entire disconnect here. Since you can't see 3D (and don't experience 3D in your normal life) you might be underestimating how important it is to people who do use both eyes to see depth. It's the key factor in feeling like something is happening in front of you and not simply being projected onto a screen.
 
mergatroid

mergatroid

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BlindChow said:
When on a ride, however, people do want to be part of the world they're experiencing. They don't want to feel like they are just watching a screen like when they're in front of their TV at home. They want to feel like they are actually flying on a Banshee on Pandora or watching Spider-Man battle villains on the streets of New York. That's what 3D provides. It gives a more immediate visceral experience than if it were a flat projection. It's the difference between animatronics/sets and painted plywood flats.

I think your last sentence is the entire disconnect here. Since you can't see 3D (and don't experience 3D in your normal life) you might be underestimating how important it is to people who do use both eyes to see depth. It's the key factor in feeling like something is happening in front of you and not simply being projected onto a screen.
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Having ridden both versions I can assure you from my perspective that it actually does still feel like you're falling through the window, travelling very fast through a room and all the other sensations that make you feel that you're actually doing stuff that you're not. It definitely has not changed any of those things that you've described and the ride doesn't now feel different or that you're in front of a screen any more or any less than when you had the 3D glasses on.

The only real change I noticed was the floating chef at the start. There's a part I vaguely remember a hand reaching for you which possibly had more depth in the 3D version but that never 'popped' as being impressive in the original. Before riding I actually articulated the thought "Will this be as good without the glasses" as I didn't even know beforehand that they had changed their version and have enjoyed the Epcot version numerous times and the answer was, yes. It was as good and better in my opinion as the gains outweighed the losses.

Again this is just my opinion having experienced both. I think many will be surprised when they try the new version though I'm sure some won't. I'm not trying to change their minds on the subject, just giving an honest verdict from somebody who's been quite critical of the Studios in Paris just the other day so there's no need for me to lie about this.
 
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9245

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This is neutering and severely dumbing down and ruining the attraction for no good reason. What percentage of guests actually had issues with the 3D? Hardly any? Meanwhile the rest of us get a lesser experience. “Enhanced” 2D my . Way to try and sell a downgrade, which is exactly what this is.
 
FigmentFan82

FigmentFan82

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3D is polarizing, people either dig it or hate it. I like 3D, however if brightness levels aren't optimal in the projectors the effect doesn't not look great and becomes a burden to the attraction instead of an asset. I think ultimately this is a good move and I really doubt many people will be very bothered by this once it's running full time in 2D. And if you really hate that it isn't 3D anymore, then don't go on it!! Perfect!
 
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9245 said:
This is neutering and severely dumbing down and ruining the attraction for no good reason. What percentage of guests actually had issues with the 3D? Hardly any? Meanwhile the rest of us get a lesser experience. “Enhanced” 2D my . Way to try and sell a downgrade, which is exactly what this is.
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Way to come out swinging in your first post! But, yeah, I'm inclined to agree. And of the percentage (whatever it may be) that can't tolerate 3D or prefer a 2D option... a compromise still could be had. Instead, now we have a 2D version that loses some of it's theme park charm.
 

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