EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure to transition to 2D with brief refurbishment in November 2025

[andre85]

I’m probably in the minority but I’d love that change also, I love the ride but it’s a once a day for me because it always makes me queasy.

With 4 theaters this is one of those rides where they could easily offer both a 2D and 3D option, similar to how Mission Space has a non spinning side to prevent motion sickness, the fact they don’t makes me think I must be part of a very small minority that it makes feel sick.

I really don't know why Disney doesn't provide 2D glasses for anyone who wants them. They just have to have the same lens in each eye so they're receiving the same picture

 

[plutofan15]

Some people are good with having low standards. It's how we've gotten a lot of the slop out of Disney in these past couple of years.

Overhauling a 3D projection system is much more expensive than dumbing it down to 2D and adding a couple of inanimate props. And yes there is a cost of purchasing, processing, and sanitizing the glasses, and in a company of penny pinchers, that expense does not go unnoticed.

Interesting. Can you please provide a side by side cost analysis of the two options?

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I've been on Peter Pan's Neverland Adventure multiple times at DisneySea and it shows its possible to perfectly blend the 3D with physical sets. Unfortunately for that to work on Rat I feel they would need to gut the entire ride and redo it.

The Peter Pan ride at TDS is my favorite Disney ride built this millennium. It shows that 2D screen based rides can be done amazingly well. It’s definitely the best ride in Fantasy Springs.

 

[andre85]

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I assume you meant to write 3D?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Interesting. Can you please provide a side by side cost analysis of the two options?

Each projection scenario in 3D requires two projectors versus just one for 2D. 3D also requires washing facilities and employees to handle to distribution, collection and washing of the glasses.

Oddly enough, being cheap is why the ride opened with 3D in the first place because only doing 2D was considered. As a “lift” the ride was to have the bare minimum of changes, so it was cheaper to open with 3D.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Interesting. Can you please provide a side by side cost analysis of the two options?

That’s out of my sweet spot

But on first reflection 2 seems to be less than 3…I’m having that math checked…

But it appears to be a downgrade…and will be perceived as such

 

[monothingie]

Interesting. Can you please provide a side by side cost analysis of the two options?

Each projection scenario in 3D requires two projectors versus just one for 2D. 3D also requires washing facilities and employees to handle to distribution, collection and washing of the glasses.

Oddly enough, being cheap is why the ride opened with 3D in the first place because only doing 2D was considered. As a “lift” the ride was to have the bare minimum of changes, so it was cheaper to open with 3D.

What he said

What everybody seems to gloss over is they could’ve easily resolved the issues of focus and brightness and still kept it 3D…but it would have cost more.

So for all the dusters and those in the cupcake brigade echoing to yourself that this as such a great thing, hope you enjoy the fruits of Disney cheaping out.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

So for all the dusters and those in the cupcake brigade echoing to yourself that this as such a great thing, hope you enjoy the fruits of Disney cheaping out.

I’m very far from a duster - the chef effect is the only 3d effect I missed. To me, it was very much the same experience.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m very far from a duster - the chef effect is the only 3d effect I missed. To me, it was very much the same experience.

It’s a ride…when you call everything an “experience”…you’re letting the audience know anything is acceptable using terminology they have spent 20 years purposefully trying to groom people to use. It’s working it seems.

 

[James Alucobond]

It’s a ride…when you call everything an “experience”…you’re letting the audience know anything is acceptable using terminology they have spent 20 years purposefully trying to groom people to use. It’s working it seems.

You're arguing about nothing. He said he felt it (the ride, understood) is essentially the same experience despite a change to the system, i.e. the experiences both versions of the ride offer are very similar. He hasn't been "groomed" into fundamentally misunderstanding what a ride is or whatever it is you're claiming. I don't know why you feel the need to talk down to everyone as if you've reached a higher state of enlightenment.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You're arguing about nothing. He said he felt it (the ride, understood) is essentially the same experience despite a change to the system, i.e. the experiences both versions of the ride offer are very similar. He hasn't been "groomed" into fundamentally misunderstanding what a ride is or whatever it is you're claiming. I don't know why you feel the need to talk down to everyone as if you've reached a higher state of enlightenment.

That term is used with a purpose…if you don’t care…just say “I don’t care”

That’s fine…you have your opinion…I have mine

 

[James Alucobond]

That term is used with a purpose…if you don’t care…just say “I don’t care”

That’s fine…you have your opinion…I have mine

You didn't read what he posted carefully. You just responded to the word "experience" like it was your sleeper agent trigger phrase instead of thinking about whether or not it actually made sense to respond in that way given the usage and context. What's worse is the jab you put in at the end (which is also the reason I responded). You really just wanted an opportunity to imply that everyone else is an easily suggestible simpleton while touting your own special immunity to pixie dust. Good for you, I guess.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That term is used with a purpose…

I’m a disciple of Marty… I would have used the term “attraction”

 

[monothingie]

I’m very far from a duster - the chef effect is the only 3d effect I missed. To me, it was very much the same experience.

Do you think this is an upgrade or downgrade?

At best it’s letting the attraction deteriorate in quality so badly that cutting a key component of the experience was necessary in order to make the attraction acceptable for guests.

At worst it’s letting the attraction deteriorate in quality so badly that they could have just left it as is or fixed it in the cheapest way available to them.

Notice the framing of the messaging for the rehab, which gives it away: loosing 3D but getting inanimate props at some point in the future. Typical Disney, sandwich the bad news with positive.

 

[DisneyNorthFan]

Seems like a great change - to me. Less motion sickness, not losing much by going from 3D to 2D (personally I found the 3D element gimmicky and from what I've read in Paris reviews, 2D has been preferred), and getting more physical props. Clearly not everyone feels the same way, but my family of 4 is all pleased with this change.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

This is a downgrade.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You didn't read what he posted carefully. You just responded to the word "experience" like it was your sleeper agent trigger phrase instead of thinking about whether or not it actually made sense to respond in that way given the usage and context. What's worse is the jab you put in at the end (which is also the reason I responded). You really just wanted an opportunity to imply that everyone else is an easily suggestible simpleton while touting your own special immunity to pixie dust. Good for you, I guess.

I read it…and even comprehended it!!!

It’s pretty simple. Ride is something that has a value indication attached. You pay for ride…you go on ride…value for your purchase.

“Experience” is intentionally ambiguous…there’s no “value” structure we have in our data banks to tie it back to…
So your breakfast goes up by bout 300% in 10 years why? Cause it’s an “experience” now. I’ll tell YOU what it’s worth and you’ll like it…pay up.

I don’t support use of that word. I find it “dirty”

It’s a pet peeve…no one has to agree with me…spare the feeble lecture…

And on to how we got a downgraded ride and we can just say it…and pay more for that lightning lane experience

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Do you think this is an upgrade or downgrade?

I think The 2d is a lateral move. Hopefully the new sets are a positive.

 

[James Alucobond]

Do you think this is an upgrade or downgrade?

It is a change. Feedback (which I assume they already have from Paris) will let them know whether the majority prefer it, dislike it, or are neutral/don't notice. The person quoted already provided their personal testimony, along with many others in the thread who have experienced the 2-D version.

The effect of any change can be viewed subjectively. Sure, something is objectively being removed (and other elements added/modified), but unless you mean "downgrade" solely in the context of technology you perceive as more complex being swapped for something you perceive as simpler (which is also not necessarily true), then it's not objective one way or the other.

Also, there are many things that could be removed from rides that I suspect would make people here happy, just as there are many technologically more advanced things that could be reverted to simpler effects that I suspect would also make people here happy. On Haunted Mansion alone, many would like to see the hatbox ghost removed, and others would like to see the hitchhiking ghosts reverted to simpler technology.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think The 2d is a lateral move. Hopefully the new sets are a positive

When did taking a lateral move become the “smart play”?