lazyboy97o
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For all intents and purposes, it’s a copy.
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EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot
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lazyboy97o
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Because leadership spent billions of dollars to avoid building attractions and it didn’t work, so they panicked and looked for things that already existed to drop into Walt Disney World. The result: TRON Light Cycle Power Run and Ratattouille: L’Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy being plopped down into awkward corners.
trainplane3
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Someone will give more details but the whole Magicband system and My Disney Experience were the massive investments. Ever notice how no other park picked them up? It's because it didn't work out the way they wanted.
ToTBellHop
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I don't find the placement of either to be terribly awkward. Remy is perfectly reasonable for World Showcase as is TRON (however redundant it might be). It's the new coaster in Future World that's awkwardly placed and oddly the most expensive project of all.
lazyboy97o
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My Disney Experience was approved based on two promises: that it would more efficiently utilize existing capacity so that more [attractions] would not have to be built for several years and that it would generate double digit growth in guest spending. As Operations predicted, it did not perform as promised and after decades of not building capacity there were no more ideas on how to defer, so they actually started building.
lazyboy97o
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I’m talking about their immediate placement and interaction with their respective lands. They’re not part of a cohesive space, they’re something around back connected by a path. Sausalito’s entrance isn’t located behind the old Energy Pavilion (this might be the first marginally positive thing I’ve said about that project).
The predicted increase in efficiency may not have happened but MDE does better allow WDW to know who is going to which parks each day. It also due to FP+ allows me to better plan my vacation. I no longer spend most of the day in parks waiting on line. I spend about half the day on shows and rides and the other half shopping and eating. We also dpend more time at Disney Springs. Believe me, MDE was money well spent because it included so much more that just FP+. We love it and the magic band sales are extremely profitable. And thanks to the new upgrade options permits hotel guests are buying bands rather than just getting the free ones.
lazyboy97o
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You can spin it to you’re preferences all you want. It didn’t deliver on its promises.
ToTBellHop
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Well over a billion.........................but we are including extensive infrastructure upgrades in there. I'm sure you'll agree the wifi coverage is OUTSTANDING and NEVER-SPOTTY--especially in the $700/night hotel rooms and while waiting for the moving-target arrival of your bus. Kids have to pee but there's NO TIME for that because the bus will be here in 2 minutes at 10:24! Oh wait 10:25. Sorry 10:27. 10:35. Actually 10:33. 10:38.
Morgan Freeman: But the bus would not show up at 10:38. The bus would not show up at all. A different bus would show up at 10:43. And Timmy would pee his pants.
trainplane3
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...still waiting for the day when they roll out a good bus tracking system that lets you see the buses for your resort like most cities have instead of the constantly moving target system...
HauntedMansionFLA
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Just ask Tom Staggs.....
justintheharris
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While I agree about the investments, Ratatouille fits perfectly into the France pavilion and is hardly an "awkward corner" and considering the space that Tron is going in was previously unused, I wouldn't consider that misplaced either. Do I agree that Disney spent way too much time and money trying to avoid building new rides? Absolutely. Do I agree that they were being lazy by selecting already existing rides? Sure. Did they make poor selections or are placing their selections inappropriately? Absolutely not.
justintheharris
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I think I'm gonna side with this one. Mainly because the development of Magic bands has probably led to people spending more money than they realize. Instead of having to pull out a credit card a see an object they associate with finances, they only have to tap a wrist band. And even worse, kids can do this too with mom and dad's card! On a different note though, you're absolutely correct that it does allow Disney to predict the amount of people going to each park. However, those are just that. PREDICTIONS. Take a look at Disneyland right now. Reservations for Star Wars sold out within hours but there are TONS of people blowing off their reservations. As a matter of fact, Disney cast members self admission block out got lifted for this week. That's how off those estimates were.
lazyboy97o
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Ratatouille is literally “around back.” It is spatially disconnected from the rest of the Pavilion.
justintheharris
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I personally don't find it awkward. But I guess that's just me.
Timothy_Q
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That's usually what happens when you expand past what is guest accessible, in a tight area.
Disneyland's Toontown is "around back" Fantasyland theater and iasw
IJA is "around back" Jungle Cruise and PotC
Harambe Market is "around back" Harambe
Fire Mountain that everybody always wants, would've been "around back" Jungle Cruise and PotC too
If the expansion and the connection between both areas are well themed, I don't see the problem.
It just creates a larger and more interesting area.
Just like how Everest is disconnected from the original Asia plot of land
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lazyboy97o
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It is not what usually happens except in more recent projects. “It’s a small world” (Disneyland) would be the most similar situation. Attractions like the Indiana Jones Adventure and Expedition Everest continue the pattern language of their respective lands, they continue to shape space in a similar manner. They’re spatially connected to their larger environment. In figure-ground Ratatouille would read as more backstage than part of the pavilion space.
justintheharris
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This is a textbook example of finding fault for the sake of finding fault.
lazyboy97o
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You’re right it is ridiculous to evaluate built space in the manner by which built space is evaluated.
