News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Right. Apparently the view of SSE is acceptable (of course it is. No one argues that) but TT isn’t. Inconsistency anyone?

1. There is a question of 'not being allowed' to voice a criticism. No one's being banned for being critical. I think some people think that being disagreed with is tantamount to being silenced. It's not.

2. If you're going to be critical, it helps the case you make to others if your criticism is not inconsistent.
  • If a building in the sightline shouldn't be there because it's not themed, then all other non-themed buildings should fall under the same criticism, no?
  • And what exactly makes a building themed? How is a cylindrical metal building considered 'themed', but a cubic colored building is not?
  • Why are highly architecturally themed buildings in the background when you look south considered as 'breaking theme' but less architecturally themed buildings in the background when you face north as not 'breaking theme'?
 
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dreday3

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PHOTOS - Ratatouille aerial construction pictures

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I have nothing constructive to add except that I find it amazing that if I didn't know what I was looking at, never in a million years would I guess it's Epcot's World Showcase! It really is amazing all the behind the scene areas hidden from public view.
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
1. There is a question of 'not being allowed' to voice a criticism. No one's being banned for being critical. I think some people think that being disagreed with is tantamount to being silenced. It's not.

2. If you're going to be critical, it helps the case you make to others if your criticism is not inconsistent.
  • If a building in the sightline shouldn't be there because it's not themed, then all other non-themed buildings should fall under the same criticism, no?
  • And what exactly makes a building themed? How is a cylindrical metal building considered 'themed', but a cubic colored building is not?
  • Why are highly architecturally themed buildings in the background when you look south considered as 'breaking theme' but less architecturally themed buildings in the background when you face north as not 'breaking theme'?

Beautifully put.
 

GlacierGlacier

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There's a pattern of white-black tiles on the top of the Ratatouille walls facing the park. I couldn't snap a pic, but it looks like it's suspended by tension and not final. Does anyone know more about this?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
That 'tin can' is pretty damn sexy. You just can't see it with the giant canopy and outdoor track uglying things up.

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We're talking about the backside as seen from World Showcase. For some people, the Swolphin gets savaged for breaking the sightline, yet the unthemed backside of that metallic cylinder looming over Mexico's shoulder somehow gets a pass.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Pity the 112,000 guests who saw it then. Assuming your figure is correct.
I have never noticed it at all, and didn’t even know about it until visiting this site. I still don’t notice it now, even knowing that it’s there. I don’t go to Disney to look for things that aren’t done just right.

I was at the opening of EPCOT when there were still huge piles of dirt where pavilions would end up. Would you have considered that bad show in 1982? What else could they have done?
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
And what is the backside of TT/WoM themed as?

And how is the Swolphin unthemed?
It's themed as the Motion Pavilion. The way you're talking suggests the building is somehow finished on that side, which is simply untrue. It's finished all the way around the way it is finished when viewed from the front of the building (minus the lousy canopy that blocks much of that finish from the front).

Whether you think it fits the theming of World Showcase or not is your opinion, but like all Future World Pavilions it was designed to be seen from World Showcase, much the way there is a grand vista into World Showcase from Future World. There was never any meaningful attempt at masking FW Pavilions from WS or vice versa, so it seems unfair to single out the WOM building for its visibility. FW and WS Pavilions are not meant to share the same architectural language, but they were meant to live harmoniously in one park.

Your mileage may vary on whether that's a good idea, or successfully implemented, it seems.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
It's themed as the Motion Pavilion. The way you're talking suggests the building is somehow finished on that side, which is simply untrue. It's finished all the way around the way it is finished when viewed from the front of the building (minus the lousy canopy that blocks much of that finish from the front).

Whether you think it fits the theming of World Showcase or not is your opinion, but like all Future World Pavilions it was designed to be seen from World Showcase, much the way there is a grand vista into World Showcase from Future World. There was never any meaningful attempt at masking FW Pavilions from WS or vice versa, so it seems unfair to single out the WOM building for its visibility. FW and WS Pavilions are not meant to share the same architectural language, but they were meant to live harmoniously in one park.

Your mileage may vary on whether that's a good idea, or successfully implemented, it seems.

Well, not all theming attempts are successful... looking at you, DinoRama.
 

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