News Refurbishment coming soon to Disney's Polynesian Village Resort - Moana details to be included

dreday3

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No, I’m equating how some people think it’s not Disney unless it’s covered in cartoons. I’m talking about a bigger picture than hotel rooms, and I’m not getting lost in the weeds.

Okay - just confused because we were talking about hotel rooms.
 

Skywise

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From tikiman's web page (facebook was giving me fits this morning)
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The wallpaper doesn't look as "loud" here - If anything this picture evokes the "Royal Pacific" rooms of Universal :p
 

Notes from Neverland

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From tikiman's web page (facebook was giving me fits this morning)
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The wallpaper doesn't look as "loud" here - If anything this picture evokes the "Royal Pacific" rooms of Universal :p
All the photos released so far have filters on them. The Tikiman Facebook photos make the colors pop a lot, but we'll have to wait for more examples to get a more accurate idea.
 

UNCgolf

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From tikiman's web page (facebook was giving me fits this morning)
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The wallpaper doesn't look as "loud" here - If anything this picture evokes the "Royal Pacific" rooms of Universal :p

That's what I said above -- they remind me a lot of the Royal Pacific rooms at Universal; I just think the Royal Pacific rooms are a little nicer.

The tattoo wallpaper is the biggest issue and probably why the Royal Pacific rooms are better IMO. The room looks so much better in the photo where the wallpaper is hidden from sight.
 

Chomama

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The #1 issue affecting many enthusiastic fans: they think the marketing hype is Disney. Over the years on multiple forums, I’ve encountered many people who call themselves fans but refuse to watch the “old” stuff made during Walt’s lifetime. They also have no appreciation for classic attractions.

You don’t have to love everything, but if you don’t appreciate classic Disney at the very least, you’re not a Disney fan. You’re a fan of Disney Conglomerate Marketing. You’ve been had by slick sales pitches, not by sincere creative content. If you think it’s not Disney without cartoons slapped on everything, you’re blinded by the last decade of toy sales. Disney was much, much more than princess toons from the 1940s through early 2000s. There’s no way to say this without sounding harsh, but please understand I mean this in a very honest, kind way.
I really appreciate this post. It articulated a lot of what frustrates me these days about being a Disney fan. Maybe watching “the boys”, Mary poppins, and reading one Walt biography could be a Disney fan starter pack or something. (Just joking around!!!)
 

Skywise

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I really appreciate this post. It articulated a lot of what frustrates me these days about being a Disney fan. Maybe watching “the boys”, Mary poppins, and reading one Walt biography could be a Disney fan starter pack or something. (Just joking around!!!)
Mi-ckey... mouse? Who dat?
 

Sir_Cliff

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I'm sure the new beds ARE comfortable... But they don't LOOK it. And all the charm of a white slab in a morgue. But this is the trend at Disney resorts these days; trying to look "modern."
See, that I really disagree with but it may be a question of taste.

I'm not keen on the characters, but I do prefer hotel beds to look fresh and clean which is how I think these beds look.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think Riviera is a good example of Disney integrated in rooms w/out being over the top. Just some great artwork. Around the entire hotel actually.
Riviera is probably the quintessential example of the issues many people have with the direction Disney has been taking with their hotels. It’s a lumpy mass of poorly designed rectangles with a little ornamentation glued on like a McMansion. The interiors are an admitted mishmash of contradicting styles plus some, decorated with random characters that are not related to the Riviera.
I still don't see the Poly rooms as in your face Moana.
In a standard hotel room, what is more prominent than the TV wall?
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Aww. I love this picture. My grandma would've loved that room. She had similar rooms in her home at one point. Her dream in life was to go to Hawaii. She loved Disneyland. She never got to WDW, or Hawaii, but she did enjoy Adventureland.

I have to wonder how the ability to travel impacts Disney. Part of the appeal of Disney theming, at least for my grandmother, was to be able to experience a little bit of a place she'd never be able to go to (or at least a perception of that place). Now we have planes that can go halfway around the world in a single flight. I've been to Hawaii multiple times and have the ability to go to Polynesian islands. Most of the resorts at WDW are fashioned after places I have traveled to. So what makes someone stay at one vs. another?

(ETA: Tuvalu pointed out that's the Contemporary, not the Poly, which makes sense. Still reminds me of my grandmother.)
I have to say, for as much as people bemoan Single IP Lands (and make no mistake, there are things to bemoan) I do think somewhere in there the impulse to build them is driven a little bit by this idea - if someone views WDW as a collection of less-real versions of real-world places, projects like Pandora and Galaxy's Edge disrupt that perception. If you want to visit those places, there's no alternative but Disney.

Same with the Wizarding World, which we all know was the main driving force behind the shift to the Single IP land. Even traveling to the UK and visiting it's collection of Potter-related offerings and inspirations doesn't scratch the itch the way the Wizarding World does.

A focus on creating places that have no real-world counterpart removes the impulse to simply visit the counterpart.

Now, I think it would be fair to say that anyone thinking of WDW as merely a collection of rip-off replicas is either a little under-informed or being dismissive . . . but their money's just as good to Disney.
 

dreday3

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Riviera is probably the quintessential example of the issues many people have with the direction Disney has been taking with their hotels. It’s a lumpy mass of poorly designed rectangles with a little ornamentation glued on like a McMansion. The interiors are an admitted mishmash of contradicting styles plus some, decorated with random characters that are not related to the Riviera.

In a standard hotel room, what is more prominent than the TV wall?

I disagree with you on both counts. Respectfully. :)

I like the Disney artwork in Riviera. It's gorgeous. I'd rather see those hanging on the walls than some paintings of fields or vases. It's just art - I don't think it really is IP theming - save for possibly Aristocats.
Why do beautiful art pieces portraying different scenes/characters from all different Disney movies need to be related to the resort? And isn't having luxury type art kind of in theme with a luxury (YMMV) hotel on the French/Italian Riviera? (yes, I know that's not a thing). Why can't it be Disney art?

The feature wall does remind me of a Polynesian tattoo, and yes it is prominent.

Also, my favorite Disney movie is Pinocchio and my favorite ride of all time is Peter Pan. So I like classic Disney and I like the new hotel design. (I'm still unclear as to why we are discussing that topic on a thread about hotel room decor)
 
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Animaniac93-98

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Imagine if the new Star Wars hotel had graphics of the characters on the walls of the room. Would you consider that theming or making it more "Star Wars"? Or would you think that detracts from the intended setting?

Right now Star Wars and Avatar are the two properties where theme integrity is treated in a noticeably different way than the rest of the resort, to the detriment of everything else.
 

Brer Panther

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Disney continues to power through in the modern world
even those lamenting Splash Mountain which is also adapting to the modern world
Why exactly should we want Disney to "adapt to the modern world"? The modern world stinks! It's full of fighting and viruses and wars and shootings and unfunny memes and hashtags and fights and trying to cash in on the success of more popular things. Disney theme parks are supposed to be whimsical, magical, and fun - an escape from the havoc and vileness of the modern world. Disney tried to "adapt to the modern world" in the 1990s too, and it resulted in crap like Mickey Unrapped and Quack Pack.
You people are insane. Honest to God, this was the Grand.

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I distinctly remember those comforters...
 

dreday3

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Imagine if the new Star Wars hotel had graphics of the characters on the walls of the room. Would you consider that theming or making it more "Star Wars"? Or would you think that detracts from the intended setting?

Right now Star Wars and Avatar are the two properties where theme integrity is treated in a noticeably different way than the rest of the resort, to the detriment of everything else.

Apples and oranges.
 

lazyboy97o

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I disagree with you on both counts. Respectfully.

I like the Disney artwork in Riviera. It's gorgeous. I'd rather see those hanging on the walls than some paintings of fields or vases. It's just art - I don't think it really is IP theming - save for possibly Aristocats.
Why do beautiful art pieces portraying different scenes/characters from all different Disney movies need to be related to the resort? And isn't having luxury type art kind of in theme with a luxury (YMMV) hotel on the French/Italian Riviera? (yes, I know that's not a thing). Why can't it be Disney art?

The feature wall does remind me of a Polynesian tattoo, and yes it is prominent.

Also, my favorite Disney movie is Pinocchio and my favorite ride of all time is Peter Pan. So I like classic Disney and I like the new hotel design. (I'm still unclear as to why we are discussing that topic on a thread about hotel room decor)
Exactly what are you disagreeing with because you seem to be agreeing.

You are right that the artwork at the Riviera is not theming and that is part of the problem. A themed hotel, while typically considered less immersive than a park-based offering, is still a themed experience. It is telling a story and placing you in that story. It would be like Mickey Mouse being in Moana because it is a Disney movie and so it might as well have some Disney characters in it. It doesn't matter if it is clearly the best animation that has ever been done of Mickey Mouse, it would still be odd, detracting and have nothing to do with the story being told. The quality of the art at Riviera is not the issue, it is that is has nothing to do with the story and further muddies and already muddied concept. Why do the images around the Polynesian have to be of Polynesia? The peoples of Polynesia use images of other places and art styles to decorate their homes. Why not have some beautiful French Impressionism or South American folk art? If you prefer Disney decorations to a themed experience that is fine but they are different things.

You were just downplaying the prominence of the Moana elements in the rooms. Yes, the graphic looks like a Polynesian tattoo and it very clearly is Maui's tattoo with his tattoo self right there on the largest open space of the wall gesturing towards Moana. That entire wall designed around Maui and Moana.

Apples and oranges.
How?
 

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