Reflections of Spaceship Earth

CaptainMichael

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Wow.... that didn't sound like a good experience at all. You definitely have a knack for making negative observations. It might be better that you didn't get on the ride, because it doesn't sound like SSE is operating so well right now. Getting on it this early might've been a bad enough experience to spoil it for you in the long run.
I fixed it for you, and I agree, he shouldn't ride.

And it wasn't always that way - which is the real point - look at the original Imagineers.

Times change merf, surely you understand this.

It's funny, compared to most Imagineers, Joe Rhode looks "normal".
 

mousermerf

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I fixed it for you, and I agree, he shouldn't ride.



Times change merf, surely you understand this.

It's funny, compared to most Imagineers, Joe Rhode looks "normal".

I work in the creative industry, there is absolutely no reason people shouldn't look professional and present themselves as such.
 

Horizons1

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I don't normally do this but, just let it go! Sheesh, you're complaining about everything you can find. The thing isn't open, and it isn't scheduled to open for another two months. If you want, you can sit outside of Epcot for the next two months. And if you're really that worried about how these people dress, why don't you go to their homes every morning and dress them yourself? It's just gotten annoying now.
 

mousermerf

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It's one thing to be eccenbtric and stylized in your look. Rhode's look is on the borderline of that, but being completely unkept and looking like a bum is not acceptable - it's sloppy. Sloppy people make sloppy work, which means delays and fixes and all sorts of glitches.
 

wickedfan07

Member
Yes, the genius that brought us Imagination with Figment and Stitch's Great Escape.

I'd call that biting the hand that feeds you. That's low, especially since you work in the creative industry. You might not like those attractions, but you don't need to go out of your way to insult the people behind the attractions. The people at WDI work there because they are the best. What they wear to work should not be your concern anyway. If it really bothers you that much, you might need a new hobby.

I'm not one to pick on other posts, but this nitpicking over what goes on BEHIND the construction wall is irritating. Let them work.
 

DisneyAnole

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I work in the creative industry, there is absolutely no reason people shouldn't look professional and present themselves as such.

I think you might have a point. It's not really fair that WDI gets by without having to be hassled with the "Disney Look." But how else is Disney going to attract ANY artists to work for them?

I mean, the "artists" who work for Disney are pretty much sellouts, as it is. If Disney was strict about a dresscode, they wouldn't even have those sellout artists working at WDI!
 

mousermerf

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So i'm not allowed to say their work is low quality at times? And it seems to lead back to certain groups within the company? Ones who work on project after project without reprimand for poor quality work?

Actors "act" poorly in a movie, we criticize them, a director poorly directs a movie, we criticize them, an architect creates an ugly building we criticize them, but imagineers are above criticism?
 

mousermerf

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I think you might have a point. It's not really fair that WDI gets by without having to be hassled with the "Disney Look." But how else is Disney going to attract ANY artists to work for them?

I mean, the "artists" who work for Disney are pretty much sellouts, as it is. If Disney was strict about a dresscode, they wouldn't even have those sellout artists working at WDI!

Ouch. I think that's far more harsh them my criticism. I don't think imagineers are sell outs, rather i hold their work in the highest regard - when done properly. I have the greatest respect for some legendary people.

For example, like animators, do we respect the people who made Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty the same way we do those who made Treasure Planet and Home on the Range? No, we do not.
 

SpongeScott

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Face it, Merf. You admitted it yourself. Outside of the confines of this forum where you think you are somebody, you're a nobody. Better luck next time. :wave:
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
There are imagineers/managers who met up with a forum-member (someone who led the Epcot 25 effort) and granted him a tour, including a photo-op at the entrance of the ride, while the rabble such as myself waited outside.

:eek: Well that wasnt very nice of them. :-\
 

Shaman

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Its easy to fall into the negative mindset when you stand around and hope to be allowed to ride an attraction you're excited to experience, especially one where you've witnessed others have the opportunity to test (I experienced that with E:E)....but I guess such attitudes are a product of the obsession. Its not worth the aggravation. If you have the chance to ride...good. If you don't move on. Don't worry...others have been able to post photos and video...
 

DisneyAnole

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Ouch. I think that's far more harsh them my criticism. I don't think imagineers are sell outs, rather i hold their work in the highest regard - when done properly. I have the greatest respect for some legendary people.

For example, like animators, do we respect the people who made Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty the same way we do those who made Treasure Planet and Home on the Range? No, we do not.

Imagineers are basically popular artists who collaborate on projects---like advertisers who make commercials. Some of their work is really exceptional, but in the end, even their best work isn't going to stand the test of time. That's not an insult, just a sad reality. Pirate of the Caribbean, e.g., isn't going to be there in 400 years. If nothing else, Disney will tear it down before then.

Imagineers aren't Van Goghs. They aren't creating art that will last, and they probably have a complex because of that. Most artists want to be thought of as immortal, and these guys aren't. That's why they act eccentric and wear unconventional earrings.

And Merf, I don't see why it's such a bad offense to call them sellouts. It's just a matter of time before everyone sells out. Don't think that you're a superior creative force because you're not one of them.
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
I don't know you mousermerf and won't judge you or anyone for that matter. But you seem to have a very negative attitude towards everything...
I don't know, I've been a member here for over a year and most of Merf's posts that I've read have been extremely positive. Yet lately people always seem to jump down his throat for nitpicking. Why shouldn't he be nitpicky? Almost everyone here is.
Besides, he brings up valid points here. The CMs and Imagineers were onstage bickering, and looking unprofessional. Aren't those big no-nos? :shrug: Well, maybe not for Imagineers. But while I can see them dressing down in their offices, maybe when they're IN the parks talking to guests, they should look a little more professional.
 

Figment571

Member
I don't know the Imagineers should be given some leniency as to the "Disney Look" only up to a certain point though. Merf did make a good point, look at the original Imagineers. I'm sure they were creative geniuses, in fact they were! They created some, if not the greatest attractions Disney has ever had. HM, PoTC, Small World, the older SSE, Horizons up to an extent these were all products of these great clean cut people. They can still be creative, just clean up the appearance a bit.

So come on cut him a break, this dude has been flippin' out over this for the past week or so. You can defiantly see why he is a little ticked right now. He had his heart set on this thing.
 

TheBeatles

Well-Known Member
I've seen studies that show casual dress in the workplace is counterproductive, but WDI is definitely a different kind of work environment.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that casual dress is causing problems at WDI, but I tend to prefer casual attire at work.

Ask me about this issue twenty years from now when I'm running WDI and I'll give you my definitive decision. :animwink:
 

BeachClubVillas

Well-Known Member
So i'm not allowed to say their work is low quality at times? And it seems to lead back to certain groups within the company? Ones who work on project after project without reprimand for poor quality work?

Actors "act" poorly in a movie, we criticize them, a director poorly directs a movie, we criticize them, an architect creates an ugly building we criticize them, but imagineers are above criticism?


You are a bitter little merflette, aren't you?
 

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