Reflections of Earth

[Maria]

I will help with one that I think I know: the fireworks, specifically the white ones that "whistle" are exclusive for Disney. Other than that.... I don´t remember very well!

hey... when are you online cac?? I always get here when the answers are already given! (not that I really know them, though!)

 

[MGMBoy]

Well...I'm SURE the number is higher then what I gave but I have no idea HOW high.

 

[CrashNet]

WE HAVE A WINNER!

No, you ARE right!

Disney has five patents for technology created for the RoE show. And guess what, you got the bonus too! One of the patents IS for the launch of fireworks via compressed air. I would explain each patent, but I would be here forever.

Great Job MGMBoy!:sohappy:

:king: Current Score:king:
MGMBoy: 125 points Sorry for the goof up!
DBF John: 95 points
Turkey Leg Boy: 30 points
Grinning Ghost: 20 points
Maria: 10 points

Maria, I wish I could tell you when I'm on, but it depends on how much I have to do during the day. I can guarantee you that I am online on Tuesday and Thursday from 11:00 am to 1:30pm, and at night everyday, with the exception of weekends, which depends on what I'm doing. Sorry thats all the info I can give! Oh and by the way, part of the reason I'm not on is because I am working my butt off coding the prize I am going to give to the winner of this trivia thread!:animwink:

Here's the next question:

Why can't RoE be shown at the same time the fantasmic show is going on?

Good Luck!

 

[DBF John]

The LASERs are not allowed to RUN at the same time

 

[MGMBoy]

Ummm...I'd say that since you have a perfect Line of Sight from the Fantasmic! arena to WS Lagoon that they don't run them at the same time because the pyro and noise from RoE would all but ruin the Fantasmic! experience. The first "Big Bang" and meaning would happen during the quieter, darker parts of Pocohontas assuming both shows start on time. And...Even worse...The 1,000 points of light and final "Big Bang" would happen during the Princess segment when the lights are turned down low. Not to mention that the Celebration colors would be flaring up when Jiminy's being chased by Monstro.

That's my reasoning but DBF John is probably right with his answer. But they barely EVER run the Fantasmic! LASER as it is. If, from the top of the mountain, there are ANY plane lights visible they scrap the LASER on the spot. I assume they do the same with RoE but since WDW is restricted airspace and the RoE LASER is pointing north they have more restricted space to work with then the SSE facing LASER od Fantasmic!

BTW cac...The term "tree" is a lighting/tech. theatre term used to describe a pole, bar, etc. where you can hang/affix multiple lights in the same area (other then catwalks and stuff like that) most "trees" are vertical and tall (hence the name).

 

[NowInc]

Maybe because they only have one fire marshall in the area..and they have to have one ON SITE during a fireworks show?

 

[MGMBoy]

Originally posted by NowInc
Maybe because they only have one fire marshall in the area..and they have to have one ON SITE during a fireworks show?

Good call Now. That was the other thing I was thinking was that it's pyro/safety related but I didn't think they NEEDED a fire marshal on-site during the show because they have so many people registered to handle explosives and pyro. Could be wrong though.

 

[CrashNet]

WE HAVE WINNERS!

What to do, what to do.

I only expected to get one answer, but instead I got ALL THREE ANSWERS! The two shows are not run at the same time for these three reasons:

1. The visual appeal of fantasmic would be ruined by RoE.
2. There is only one fire station in the area incase of an emergency.
3. The lasers for both shows cannot be used at the same time.

Great... no... EXCELLENT Job to DBF John, MGMBoy, and NowInc!:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:

I will post the new score and question tomorrow!

Good night!

 

[DBF John]

Not to dispute the validity of the answers, I just want to point out a couple things,

1) Doesn't ROE and Fantasmic run at the same time during the summer or when the Studios close at 9pm, I have seen the glows of ROE a few times while watching Fantasmic at 9pm.

2) And looking at the Cast Atlas, there are two RCES Stations in the immedate area, the Headquaters station on Beuna Vista Drive, and another station within the confines of EPCOT, just behind.....well, what was Horizons.

3) And LEGAL ISSUES about the LASER's running at the same time??? Doesn't the Fantasmic LASER only run once at the end of the show, long after ROE's, if both shows start at the same time, ROE's LASER shots run at about 3 & 8 minutes into the show, and Fantasmics at the end of about 25 minutes.

Like I said Im not disputeing anything, but if these are OFFICAL reasons, they dont seem to be reasonable.

 

[MGMBoy]

Originally posted by DBF John
1) Doesn't ROE and Fantasmic run at the same time during the summer or when the Studios close at 9pm, I have seen the glows of ROE a few times while watching Fantasmic at 9pm.

2) And looking at the Cast Atlas, there are two RCES Stations in the immedate area, the Headquaters station on Beuna Vista Drive, and another station within the confines of EPCOT, just behind.....well, what was Horizons.

1) See...I wondered the same thing but when I was working down there a couple years ago during spring break they wouldn't run the second Fantasmic! show until 9:30. It confused the heck out of the guests that the show would start 30 minutes after park close but that's what happened. One show at right around 7:00 and one @ 9:30. In fact I went to the later show with my family and I remember seeing the RoE lights during the pre-show.

2) I didn't know there was a RCES station behind Horizons (building or not that how I'll still refer to the area) I walked by there dozens of times and never saw anything. If there IS one it wasn't big enough to house much of an emergency vehicle fleet. Only thing I remember seeing behind Horizons was a WDI Trailer.

 

[CrashNet]

Here's the reasoning

1) Doesn't ROE and Fantasmic run at the same time during the summer or when the Studios close at 9pm, I have seen the glows of ROE a few times while watching Fantasmic at 9pm.

2) And looking at the Cast Atlas, there are two RCES Stations in the immedate area, the Headquaters station on Beuna Vista Drive, and another station within the confines of EPCOT, just behind.....well, what was Horizons.

3) And LEGAL ISSUES about the LASER's running at the same time??? Doesn't the Fantasmic LASER only run once at the end of the show, long after ROE's, if both shows start at the same time, ROE's LASER shots run at about 3 & 8 minutes into the show, and Fantasmics at the end of about 25 minutes.


Heres the reasons why.
1)RoE and Fantasmic DO run at the same time; however, Disney goes into great detail to make sure certain parts of each show don't overlap with each other. The shows don't always start at 9:00 on the dot. The two parks actually call each other to make sure they start within the proper time limits set by Disney. Think of the video of the Fantasmic technical difficulty, a major timing problem for both shows. In that case, MGM would call and let the people at EPCOT know. I'll give you an example of the visual problems: The end of Celebration for RoE and the tribute to character's bubble video in Fantasmic. The visual appeal of Fantasmic during that portion of the show is supposed to be more of somber one, that way the climax of the show, the end, will be more effective. This is just an example and in no way is it one of the reasons.
2)The Disney "campus" for a lack of better word, only has one major fire station that can handle an event the size of RoE or Fantasmic. Keep in mind each show has over 2,000-3,000 people, and evacuation is also a factor. The fire station you mentioned near the old horizons site can't handle a full blown emergency, so the other fire station is needed as well, preventing them from being able to go to fantasmic if something were to happen there as well.
3)The legal issues behind the lasers will be discussed later, mainly because it has to do with the next question.

If you read what I just wrote, everything concerning show times all depends on TIMING. Don't ever forget, Disney considers EVERYTHING!

As promised here's the current score:

:king: Current Score:king:
MGMBoy: 135 points
DBF John: 105 points
Turkey Leg Boy: 30 points
Grinning Ghost: 20 points
Maria: 10 points
NowInc: 10 points Welcome!

NOTE TO MGMBoy: If you didn't see the edited post, I wanted to let you know I fixed your score. SORRY!

Here's the next question:
Where are all of the lasers in RoE pointed?
HINT: It is above an actual structure.

Good Luck!

 

[MGMBoy]

Over Spaceship Earth? There aren't many other tall structures that the American Adventure beam could aim above. Also...I don't know HOW I could have forgotten this but congratulations on your 100th post cac. And yes I did see the edited post. Thanks.

 

[CrashNet]

Thanks and no...

Thanks for the congrats MGMBoy
*sheds a tear*
Spaceship earth isn't right. Think bigger. (not size but distance) This will probably give it away, but consider what the last few posts have been about when you come up with your answer.

 

[MGMBoy]

Hmmm...Bigger distance...The moon? What about Mars? Seriously though...When you say to consider the last few posts I would have to guess Fantasmic! mountain and ToT but the American Adventure lasers don't point in that direction at all. You've got me all confused. :veryconfu

 

[CrashNet]

WE HAVE A WINNER!

You're close enough. They actually point above the Fantasmic stage. Here's why. When you think about the components of a laser, you have to think fourth dimensionally. The beam is bent by mirrors, giving the illusion that they are pointing in a different direction. If you take away the mirrors and turn the laser on in its nuetral position, the actual beam itself is pointed directly at the Fantasmic stage, as are the other lasers in RoE. The three lasers in fantasmic are also point in the same direction in the neutral position. Combined, all of the lasers from both shows point to the same spot in space (the air) above the fantasmic stage. This is the reason why timing is so important. All of the lasers cannot be run at the same time because too much concentrated energy would be focused on one spot in space. Think about laser pointers. You know how you aren't ever supossed to point them at someones eye because it will ruin or possibly blind them? The same concept works here, but on a much bigger scale. I don't know for sure, but there is the possibility that there is a code (like a building code) that requires a limited amount of laser emissions in the air at one time within a certain distance of one another.

Anyway, Great Job MGMBoy!:sohappy:

:king: Current Score:king:
MGMBoy: 145 points
DBF John: 105 points
Turkey Leg Boy: 30 points
Grinning Ghost: 20 points
Maria: 10 points
NowInc: 10 points

Here's the next question:
I mentioned before that the cast members won't let you sit on the rock formations around the lagoon. They also won't let you sit on the walls around the lagoon either. Why?

Good Luck!

 

[MGMBoy]

THAT'S because of the shore based mortars. Could you imagine the lawsuit if someone was sitting on the wall when the water level in the lagoon is lower? The shore mortar goes off, scares the crap out of them, they fall, head first, onto the rocks that line the shore. Ewww...Bad images. :hurl:

 

[CrashNet]

Thats right...but

Thats right when you consider the walls right at the lagoon, but the walls I am refering to are the ones farther away from the lagoon, such as those around the different pavilions. Sorry for the confusion!

 

[DBF John]

Other than Slip & Fall injuries, I can't think of anything.

 

[MGMBoy]

You did say SITTING on them right? I'd guess speakers.

 

[CrashNet]

WE HAVE A WINNER!

MGMBoy is on fire!

That is right. You're standing there watching the show and wondering, "where in the world does the sound come from?" Well you guessed it, the speakers are hidden and disquised as other parts of the park. If they aren't hidden on the roof of a building, they are actually hidden inside the walls around the lagoon, which is why you can't sit on the walls DURING the show. It would muffle out the sound.

Great Job MGMBoy!:sohappy:

:king: Current Score:king:
MGMBoy: 155 points
DBF John: 105 points
Turkey Leg Boy: 30 points
Grinning Ghost: 20 points
Maria: 10 points
NowInc: 10 points

I am putting the finishing touches on the prize. (keep in mind, it IS NOT a big thing) The main code is finished I am just debugging it. So, because I am running out of questions, I am going to start pacing myself. With that in mind, the next question will be posted a 6:30pm today. Don't forget!