Giss Neric
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Added stress basically. You have to worry about Ratatouille's VQ and finding a good spot for Harm. I'm sure there will be people saving spots hours before.
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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious
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Vinnie Mac
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Honestly this is probably not even useful to the conversation but someone (who supposedly saw testing of Harm overnight) told me they "heard We Go On".Don’t how true this is so taking it as a grain of salt, but overheard a conversation saying that Harm will have a theme song, at some point in the show, but it won’t be original to the show.If true not necessarily a bad thing, HEAs theme song was not original either.
79.2% sure this is false information but an interesting claim nonetheless.
TTA94
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I did see that one YouTube video out there last night in my late-night search of park audio (thanks @mnelson3)of someone’s attempt at mixing some audio clips on their first guess of what they thought/feel would be Harmonious audio.
I wouldn’t even be the slightest bit mad if We Go On was it.
Wasn’t my video, but I’ve seen it as well as the one someone made using the finale demo of Shanghai’s Ignite The Dream, called “Ignite Your Magic Dream”.
Ive also been told a few months ago that during the traditions class one of the videos they played included music in the background that sounded like it was from a newer nighttime show, and it was indeed “IASW”. Of course that could have been for anything or a demo.
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TTA94
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Oh I know it wasn’t your video, you were the cause of me staying up browsing YouTube last night. Lol. Apologies for any confusion.
That’s very interesting on the IASW piece. Would be curious if IASW audio clip was part of Traditions in the past or if this was updated recently/post-closure.
21 days (or less) until we all find out.
Lol all good
. Apparently the video with IASW featured Josh D'Amaro. So must not have been that old. They said the music sounded awesome like a finale for a nighttime show. Almost made me want to go sit through a tradition class 
.Brenthodge
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Dry dock means it isn’t underwater.
Being an old school EPCOT Center person, I’ve come to accept the reality of the new direction of the park. Yeah, GotG doesn’t belong in EPCOT, but I guess it’s fine for Epcot. Sure, the GotG gravity building is big, but you really can’t see it from most places in the park. I’ve tried to keep an open mind about the Harmonious barges. I figured pictures over-accentuated their size.
I was wrong. They look even worse in person. These things are ridiculously in-your-face big.
I didn’t think it was possible for Disney to completely screw up something this badly. They’ve taken one of the best views in WDW and transformed it into one of the worst. Unbelievable.
I was wrong. They look even worse in person. These things are ridiculously in-your-face big.
I didn’t think it was possible for Disney to completely screw up something this badly. They’ve taken one of the best views in WDW and transformed it into one of the worst. Unbelievable.
Pictures actually under-accentuate their size. Kind of crazy.
Unless they were on the promenade I’d take it with a pinch of salt.
pdude81
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Sure, I get what dry means. Ships in dry dock are normally very visible above the ground while they are being worked on. However I'm responding to someone talking about sinking these down lower so you don't see them.
So either we're talking about lowering these down below the water level somehow and then not allowing any other water in, meaning some huge overengineered box with tons of electronics and support infrastructure you'd need to install and maintain, which also would have to be visible above the water to cut down on entry points as well as large enough to hide the barges (good luck there), or you're talking about sinking this like WoC which requires the barges themselves to be able to be resistant to the elements and just. And as we know they didn't even figure out they wouldn't easily fit through the canal until it was late in the game.
Now if the prior poster meant some sort of lock system where they raise up each barge and pull them out to some other giant overengineered structure to pass it outside the lagoon, then that could potentially work. But the likely easier, cheaper, and better looking solution would be to widen the canal a little bit during the 4 month closure and long period of attendance caps. Though it still wouldn't be easy or cheap.
I hope one day we can find out just how early or late it was that someone raised the concern about clearances. It's too late to do anything about it now, but I'd just like somewhere to place my anger moving forward.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Actually it would just require a steel or concrete box, a hand crank to open a water valve below the waterline, and an electrical pump to pump out the water, it could be quite simple. The pump wouldn’t even need to be large because it would have several hours to pump out the water every night after the park closes. If the box or pump failed the barges would simply rise with the water level, relatively zero risk.
The lagoon is only 25 feet deep so it may not completely hide the barges but even lowering them 10-15 feet would at the very least leave only the screen portion above the water, that would hide the hideous boxes underneath. It would also have the added benefit it would allow easy maintenance access.
Disney won’t do it but it could have worked.
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Incomudro
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Or...
They could have gone with a less monstrous structure that could retract into the water, either into a concrete structure or not depending on the way it was engineered.
Perhaps just the water spraying functions.
Skip the screens, or maybe have them come and go from off stage like the globe did.
They should have let the aesthetics of what this all would look like when the show wasn't going on, dictate the limitations of what they went for.
pdude81
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I agree, this whole thing is a sandwich. Unfortunately they asked for different roll instead of trying a different entree.
123mart123
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@lentesta has been saying for a while something like: Disney decision makers / execs / imagineers don’t use their own products or go to their own parks.
others here have said similar…
I think that is spot on. They do not appear to have a customer experience perspective at all.
the vacations have become so complicated and expensive and all the while diminished.…And this despite the massive investments.
they seem to be spending the capital to make BIG changes…but they are not spending the energy to make the RIGHT investment IMHO.
exhibit A - illuminations replaced with a generic MK like IP show…and a carpet bombed world showcase lagoon…
danv3
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This is by design. Paying for a good spot will be heavily incentivized.
ImperfectPixie
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One of my previous boss' sons installed 8-foot tall lettering along the roofline of a restaurant that said "RIVERHUOSE".
Club Cooloholic
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Well you can never have enough cupcakes, what's another 80 to 120 dollars
EricsBiscuit
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So it’s not the Bellagio but I guess it’s something:
The arms move adding kinetic energy and there’s lots of individual fountains. Let’s see if they can keep it working for a month.
The arms move adding kinetic energy and there’s lots of individual fountains. Let’s see if they can keep it working for a month.
kevlightyear
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Brenthodge
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So, whatever “wow” these would have at night, it will already be diminished by showing a lame example of what they can do during the day??!! The only think the fountains have going for them really is darkness and the lighting, so yeah… let’s “show em off” without that. So. Disappointed.