Notes from Neverland
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I'm just curious at what point the resorts will be too overbuilt for the theme parks (if they aren't already). Also, replying to your comment to say it's great to see you around here again.
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News Reflections – A Disney Lakeside Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Can you expand upon this?I'm just curious at what point the resorts will be too overbuilt for the theme parks (if they aren't already). Also, replying to your comment to say it's great to see you around here again.
Notes from Neverland
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It's just an opinion that Disney has focused a lot of late expanding / building new resorts to attract guests, but aren't matching the capacity needed at the theme parks. They're trying to get more and more people on property while not giving them enough to do.
UNCgolf
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I think they're a long way off from having too many rooms on-site, solely because they can spread them out across four different parks.
It's all the off-site guests that really cut into the capacity.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They gave up on what we traditionally thought of “comfortable capacity” long ago
But as far as “adding rooms”…they have not. They are adding timeshare units and converting rooms into them. Different animal altogether.
And it gets worse: way more tourists in Orlando coming from off property each day…and it’s been “boom! We’re all rich!!” Building in Orlando for way too long now…
More bad news
mattpeto
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The rumors was the next phase for the skyliner was a connection to Disney Springs. I'd be quite pleased if AKL gets in the mix here somehow as the next phase instead.
nickys
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Is this the same something else that was being considered from AKL in the past?
Far as I know they can only afford cable cars. But this is long term I need to add. If ever.
pdude81
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CSR and DAK, interesting. And they'd likely have to rework the drainage near that turn in the parking lot. Better get those permits moving!!!! Also I still hope for any kind of train from the hotels to DAK. I'll take a go kart and a small paved path at this point.
peter11435
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up after the events of last week.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
they should build a new resort entirely in a more business friendly state like New York.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It makes more sense to tie in a park that they’ve always planned on having a bigger share of the attendance - DAK - than springs.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Anteater
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In relative cost, why is the monorail so much more expensive now than it was 50 years ago? If they can't operate the ski lift during thunderstorms, they cut the operating times of these by what, 1/4 or more?The light rail unicorn?
Lol…”afford”…gets me everytime
I've been on the monorail during some of those downpours; they're no issues except they slow it down considerably likely due to visibility. But, inside, it's nice and cool with plenty of room. Too bad they've abandoned new construction of them.
pdude81
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Oh they can operate them during thunderstorms. They just don't want people crowding around the station to sue if they get struck by lightning or stand in a puddle when lightning strikes nearby.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Because the monorail is an inefficient, high maintenance, energy guzzling albatross by today’s operational standards.
It was built as “part of the show” more than efficient transport. Intensive internal study was done when phase 3 construction ramped up…and it was a dog then. It’s only gotten worse since then.
correcaminos
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We can agree to disagree. Didn't marry at Disney (due to religious crap) but love runs deep for that area. I actually never liked the pavilion and wanted a vow renewal at Sunset Pointe. People said the same about VGF and it isnt an issue. The new PVB whatever will be attractive to brides too I am sure.Exactly what I said: building right on top of wedding pavilion that kills any chance of intimacy. And that’s what’s gonna Happen.
Father of the bride may not want to see bathing suits air drying on the balcony when he cuts the check
We won’t totally agree on this…DVC is your thing and I respect that.
I just own it. And worked on that spot. And had a wedding in Disney (not at the pavilion though)
Just spitballing.
I really think the distance is going to be far enough. The beach area is closer to Fiji/Tuvalu/Aotearoa and only the resort end will be even remotely close. We still have Francks in between too.
They already tore down part of CBR.... let's be real here. A good possibility why Reflections was nixed was because it was adding deluxe rooms. You know, what they struggle to fill anyway.
pdude81
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Electric motors are still much more efficient than gas engines though, right? So we're talking more about control systems and load/unload times at this point. Maintenance I can understand but I imagine we could redesign these trains to use fewer, more reliable parts. That leaves the tracks themselves.
ctrlaltdel
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Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, as it would also connect the only park with only bus transportation to 2 big resorts who also only have bus transit (as well as connecting to a larger system). But as someone pointed out yesterday with the relatively slow speed of the gondolas I believe (can't remember if it was in this thread or not), it would make for pretty long transit times from AKL to either Epcot or DHS.
UNCgolf
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I imagine they could fix that with newer trains etc. -- and it's probably a more efficient means of transport than the Skyliner, although that's if costs are ignored.