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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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Besides the logo, here are two other things:
1. Closed Executive session upcoming to discuss negotiations with RCFD over a new contract and another closed session to discuss ligation strategy involving state and federal cases.
2. Development of business advisory groups. More from OBJ-
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District is making headway in its efforts to create an advisory group for businesses in and around Walt Disney World.
District Administrator Glenton Gilzean Jr. said during the board's June 21 meeting that he has been in contact with district stakeholders on the formation of groups for businesses to provide feedback to the district. "We are in the process of discussing what the board will look like with the goal of ... honest and open conversation that deals with most of the misinformation currently out there," Gilzean said at the meeting.
The district, which has 350 taxpayers including Disney, still is ironing out the details, Gilzean told Orlando Business Journal after the meeting. He said the district is probably 60 days away from formalizing the advisory group and making an official presentation to district board members for approval.
"My goal is to get input from as many people as possible so when we develop this, it's supported by the neighbors," he said. The district will determine if multiple advisory groups for various types of businesses or issues will be needed, he added.
Meanwhile, Jay Leonard, complex general manager of the 394-room Wyndham Lake Buena Vista Disney Springs hotel, looks forward to the creation of a business advisory group in the district.
Leonard told OBJ he sees the concept of advisory groups as a way for his business to provide the district some insights that matter to him and his 250 employees. He said being able to be heard by the district is a good sign in the wake of changes being made by the new district board, which is made up of Gov. Ron DeSantis appointees and replaced the former Reedy Creek Improvement District in February.
"[It's about] being able to hear constituents ... the advisory [group] will bridge the gap," he said.
Executives with Disney could not be reached for comment.
The effort to create an advisory group comes as there have been questions about the impact that changes made by the new district board members will have on local businesses.
In April, the district alarmed businesses in Disney Springs when it announced the possibility of raising property taxes to cover the growing cost of its legal battles with Walt Disney World.
“Disney picked the fight with this board … our lawyers have told us is — factually and legally — what they created is an absolute legal mess. It will not work … we had to hire lawyers to evaluate these 11th-hour agreements … That’s going to cost us money, and because that’s going to cost us money, we are going to have to raise taxes,” Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Chairman Martin Garcia said during the board's April 26 meeting.
There's more from the Article, but this was the important stuff.
Link to the Article for the curious: https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando...-florida-tourism-district-advisory-board.html
1. Closed Executive session upcoming to discuss negotiations with RCFD over a new contract and another closed session to discuss ligation strategy involving state and federal cases.
2. Development of business advisory groups. More from OBJ-
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District is making headway in its efforts to create an advisory group for businesses in and around Walt Disney World.
District Administrator Glenton Gilzean Jr. said during the board's June 21 meeting that he has been in contact with district stakeholders on the formation of groups for businesses to provide feedback to the district. "We are in the process of discussing what the board will look like with the goal of ... honest and open conversation that deals with most of the misinformation currently out there," Gilzean said at the meeting.
The district, which has 350 taxpayers including Disney, still is ironing out the details, Gilzean told Orlando Business Journal after the meeting. He said the district is probably 60 days away from formalizing the advisory group and making an official presentation to district board members for approval.
"My goal is to get input from as many people as possible so when we develop this, it's supported by the neighbors," he said. The district will determine if multiple advisory groups for various types of businesses or issues will be needed, he added.
Meanwhile, Jay Leonard, complex general manager of the 394-room Wyndham Lake Buena Vista Disney Springs hotel, looks forward to the creation of a business advisory group in the district.
Leonard told OBJ he sees the concept of advisory groups as a way for his business to provide the district some insights that matter to him and his 250 employees. He said being able to be heard by the district is a good sign in the wake of changes being made by the new district board, which is made up of Gov. Ron DeSantis appointees and replaced the former Reedy Creek Improvement District in February.
"[It's about] being able to hear constituents ... the advisory [group] will bridge the gap," he said.
Executives with Disney could not be reached for comment.
The effort to create an advisory group comes as there have been questions about the impact that changes made by the new district board members will have on local businesses.
In April, the district alarmed businesses in Disney Springs when it announced the possibility of raising property taxes to cover the growing cost of its legal battles with Walt Disney World.
“Disney picked the fight with this board … our lawyers have told us is — factually and legally — what they created is an absolute legal mess. It will not work … we had to hire lawyers to evaluate these 11th-hour agreements … That’s going to cost us money, and because that’s going to cost us money, we are going to have to raise taxes,” Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Chairman Martin Garcia said during the board's April 26 meeting.
There's more from the Article, but this was the important stuff.
Link to the Article for the curious: https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando...-florida-tourism-district-advisory-board.html
What a mess
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's all non-sense. If they stuck to simple limited government and kept the district to only doing what it really needs to be focusing on there is no need to have this sort of bloat. They can hold hearings and do committees when upcoming needs dictate such a need. There shouldn't be that kind of churn and movement that this is needed all the time.
It's just a way to try to spend other people's money and kiss butts along the way. Until the participants recognize they are just being used.
Goofyernmost
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JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
Going to each stakeholder with cookies and coffee (postum for the brethren) would get them plenty of honest feedback without all the structure that massages and distorts any real concerns with polycor.
Agreed as well. But given that I’m a creative director professionally, I’m gonna judge that as well.
Figgy1
Well-Known Member
^^^^ as I'm also a bit artsyish and if anybody deserves to be bashed on principal it's the board
GrumpyFan
Well-Known Member
Not sure if it’s been discussed, but has there been any mention of what happens to the former board members and the land they’ve leased? I don’t even recall reading anything about it in the new legislation that formed CFTOD. I would guess it will be a topic of discussion for them at some point.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I’m sure the former board members and their land leases are between Disney and them. I don’t think the board would have any bearing on it
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Those deals were between Disney and those individuals. The reconstitution legislation only has a bearing in that board members are no longer required to be landowners in the District. Given that Disney is trying to enjoin that legislation, it wouldn’t make sense to change anything at this time.
OvertheHorizon
Well-Known Member
I would love to know what CFTOD paid for that logo design. IF they wanted to build goodwill, they could have had a design contest for Florida college art and design programs and offered prizes. I'm confident they would have had a much better end product.
JKick95
Active Member
My biggest complaint about the new logo is how big the word “District” is. It’s like I’m in the Hunger Games waiting to see a number to see a number to follow. “Central Florida Tourism” would be the better choice to have as the focal point in my opinion.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I know it could have been better, but it isn't the design that offends me, in fact I see some esthetic value, it's what it is connected to that is massively offensive to me. If that same sign was connected to RCID it would not be dynamic but it would be pleasantly acceptable. I also spent many years in managing a print advertising graphic design department. Won't say it was the best ever, but I do have some experience in it as well.
In the world of disappointment that we currently reside, I hope that Disney doesn't cave and takes it to court as far as necessary. This is something worth fighting for. I could only watch a very brief moment of seeing the "new" board sitting there like they invented the wheel and like they have been doing this for years. It honestly gagged me and I do not have a weak stomach. That new sign to me represents dictatorial arrogance like the wanna be important people sitting in those chairs. However the sign is easily changed, the reason for it cannot without a fight.
To me Disney can and does many questionable and seemingly incompetent things. RCID was never one of those things. Couple that with the ignorance shown by the state government in thinking the RCID ever had any creative control of the ethical standards of the Walt Disney Company would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. Any company that would go to court to prevent a kindergarten from having a Mickey Mouse depiction on its wall, shouldn't be concerned about upsetting a misguided politician bent on controlling private property.
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kong1802
Well-Known Member
See firefighters....
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
That would be spec work, which is rarely viewed favorably by the design community.
I've never made a designer i'm interviewing do spec work.
In the actual design part of the interview, I ask a few design theory questions and a few technical questions - that's it.
If I hire them and later found out they lied to me, they get fired. Pretty straightforward.
How do you come up with a logo for an organization whose name is a big lie?
<graphic designer> "Oh, 'Central Florida!' Let me think about what images come to mind with that phrase, and let me check a map to see if there are any interesting geographic features to inclu...
Oh. It's just an area covering Walt Disney World and nowhere else in 'Central Florida.' What a crock..."
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
It's ironic that they use an orange tree for their logo as there are probably ZERO orange groves in the district.
It should be this:
It should be this:
I would've gone with a logotype and dropped the symbols altogether.