News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

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mmascari

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flynnibus said:
But at $500/day max... Disney could just as easy just pay the fine every time and tell them to off :)
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Is the a max per company or a max per violation?

As a max per company across all violation, that would be less than $200K a year. A big fat nothing.

If that is a max per violation, there is no top end total. If they find just 6 violations, that's over a $1M a year to just ignore them. Find, 30 and we're clearing $5M a year then to ignore them.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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flynnibus said:
That's not fair. They are enabling civil fines and a way to appeal and collect. This isn't really much different then any other municipality that has ordinances or laws. RCID was in fact abnormal in that basically they operated without any enforcement. But of course that is because of the 'we are all friends here' arrangement of basically not needing to force cooperation.

Other entities would delegate this to police or local code enforcement officers. This is the board breaking the cozy relationship between the district and who it is regulating.

This is all civil - there is no 'hauling off to jail' or the like. This is the district imposing up to $500/day fines, giving you a venue to appeal, and setting up to apply liens if fines aren't paid.

The setup of not having a hearing before 21 days and still being liable for the infraction per day while waiting for the hearing sucks though.
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Come on now, we all know from the previous behavior here that they aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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LittleBuford said:
A general question out of curiosity: What happens in most places in the US when an unidentified individual calls an ambulance for someone else? If you see an unconscious person, for example, and call 911 without providing your own name, is anyone still expected to pay for the ambulance?
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The person who receives the care pays the bill. If you are in a car accident and unconscious and an ambulance takes you to the hospital you get a bill. It’s not typically a small bill either. A few hundred dollars to upwards of $1,000 or more depending on circumstances. Covered by most insurance and medicare, but it’s still nice to not have to deal with that on vacation, it’s bad enough you need the ride.
 
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Lilofan

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GoofGoof said:
The person who receives the care pays the bill. If you are in a car accident and unconscious and an ambulance takes you to the hospital you get a bill. It’s not typically a small bill either. A few hundred dollars to upwards of $1,000 or more depending on circumstances. Covered by most insurance and medicare, but it’s still nice to not have to deal with that on vacation, it’s bad enough you need the ride.
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There are a few folks I know who work in small business and by choice carry no health insurance. Surely they will get a bill on a hospital ride. Whether they pay it or not that's another story.
 
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Lilofan

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peter11435 said:
Yep. And they wouldn’t have gotten a bill for an RCID ambulance ride over the last 50 years…. But that might change soon
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Not referring to RCID. Talking about outside of WDW. But you are correct on free rides to hospital from WDW. If you call an ambulance on property the paramedics can even give you a check up at the park or resort on your vital signs and EKG free of charge.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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Lilofan said:
Not referring to RCID. Talking about outside of WDW. But you are correct on free rides to hospital from WDW. If you call an ambulance on property the paramedics can even give you a check up at the park or resort on your vital signs and EKG free of charge.
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I don't think this applies to the Advent Health-run first aid offices in the parks though right?
 
Vacationeer

Vacationeer

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The $400,000 paycheck for the guy great at running after school programs…

And $500/day fines. They’ll need 800 citations each year just for him. To run after school programs in WDW?
 
mkt

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
flynnibus said:
But at $500/day max... Disney could just as easy just pay the fine every time and tell them to off :)
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I did a similar experiment 10 years ago.

I parked illegally for a month. Due to a combination of inconsistent enforcement of parking enforcement and a prepaid legal plan through work, it was cheaper to park illegally than pay for a parking garage.
 
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Krandor

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Stripes said:
It is very much against American ideals. And it is very corrupt, in my opinion.

However, the idea of no taxation without representation is not in the constitution.
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That is fair it is not in the constitution but it still feels wrong.

My confusion in this whole thing is what is the endgame here. We now have reedy creek wanting all these inspectors to go around inspecting stuff and issuing fines to make things difficult for disney. You can't do that without also making things difficult for the guests as well. Even the monorail thing - if you shutdown the monorail on July 4th for inspection you are hurting the guests... and guess what - some of those may be desantis supporters and that could make them change their mind. I am a disney fan. I WAS a DeSantis supporter - not anymore.

It seems the goal here is to make guests not go to disney anymore. Let's say he succeeds and reduces attendance at disney by 20%. Are those people then going to go to universal instead? In my case - no. If DeSantis runs me off from a disney trip I'm off to a place like cedar point. So his reduction is disney visitors will kill the florida tax base and likely cause layoffs. That is not a great platform for a presidential run.

I don't know what DeSantis thinks he is going to accomplish here. If the goal is to change the content of disney films and TV shows that is never happening. Even getting splash mountain back (which I could support) isn't happening.
 

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