tissandtully
Well-Known Member
This is going to be used to enforce fines on businesses that do COVID restrictions on property, even though none do anymore. But, what about the next pandemic?
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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lazyboy97o
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The person who is transported is who receives the bill.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
The better one is getting airlifted when unconscious. An air transport emergency is generally a separate line item in your benefit grid, and it's typically way more expensive than a ground transport emergency. That said, that's why a maximum out of pocket exists.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
*insert travel insurance sales pitch*I think the stories will be something like this:
- It's very small percentage of guests who are impacted. Almost nobody compared to the daily attendance at the parks.
- Disney guests are already paying for an expensive vacation. They can afford cost.
- Disney guests are already paying for an expensive vacation. They have insurance that can can afford cost.
- Some local story about a Disney guest who saved their whole life for a single trip, had an accident, and is now financially ruined.
- Person from local story starts a go fund me to avoid financial ruin.
- National news outlet picks up on go fund me story.
It's a long trip from the start to end. Who knows how long it will take to get there. Until then, maybe some minor uptick in guest complaints, just maybe.
Compared to the cost of a Disney vacation, a $500 ambulance ride isn't much. If it's a $5,000 ride, that's a different story. Plus, you probably did a no-show for all your reservations that day, and then called to get the no show fee waived.
The reverse of this, where there is no ambulance charge and they return you back to the bubble, that's just a magic moment.
GimpYancIent
Well-Known Member
The patient conscious or unconscious is billed for transport and medical services provided.
One exception is if you call for an ambulance at WDW to transport you to ie Celebration hospital, you get a free ride. RCES does not bill the patient.
Stripes
Premium Member
For now…
scottieRoss
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The bigger thing here is it permits CFTOD to appoint enforcement officers with the ability to issue citations for any violations of District policies, resolutions and ordinances. They will be the District's Brown Shirts. A defacto police department. And the citations they issue go to the new District Magistrate. And it authorizes the creation of the entire Office of the Magistrate.
Walkin cooler at 41 degrees, off to Mickey Mouse court. Exceed a District speed limit on Western Way, off to Mickey Mouse Court.
Attraction building not having a lockbox at the door or the posting of 3 emergency contacts, Mickey is off to Mickey Mouse Court.
I feel that this is perhaps the most sinister thing that CFTOD has done. This is an absolute power grab.
Walkin cooler at 41 degrees, off to Mickey Mouse court. Exceed a District speed limit on Western Way, off to Mickey Mouse Court.
Attraction building not having a lockbox at the door or the posting of 3 emergency contacts, Mickey is off to Mickey Mouse Court.
I feel that this is perhaps the most sinister thing that CFTOD has done. This is an absolute power grab.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
Thankfully there's a good chance it will all get thrown out. But, we're kind of in bizarro country now, so who knows.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
Just reading through the whole BOS, so far 2 things
Garcia March 29 meeting minutes page 55 admits to emails and conversations with special counsel pertaining to the agreement- will be interesting to see that convo.
Same meeting minutes, page 61 pertaining to hiring additional lawyers, recommendations including calling the Governors office for opinions.
Garcia March 29 meeting minutes page 55 admits to emails and conversations with special counsel pertaining to the agreement- will be interesting to see that convo.
Same meeting minutes, page 61 pertaining to hiring additional lawyers, recommendations including calling the Governors office for opinions.
flynnibus
Premium Member
flynnibus
Premium Member
That's not fair. They are enabling civil fines and a way to appeal and collect. This isn't really much different then any other municipality that has ordinances or laws. RCID was in fact abnormal in that basically they operated without any enforcement. But of course that is because of the 'we are all friends here' arrangement of basically not needing to force cooperation.
Other entities would delegate this to police or local code enforcement officers. This is the board breaking the cozy relationship between the district and who it is regulating.
This is all civil - there is no 'hauling off to jail' or the like. This is the district imposing up to $500/day fines, giving you a venue to appeal, and setting up to apply liens if fines aren't paid.
The setup of not having a hearing before 21 days and still being liable for the infraction per day while waiting for the hearing sucks though.
Disney has always been able to enforce the most painful and efficient form of penalties: Trespass.
It's not like the unruly guest is a citizen of the land and has to be dealt with on a continuing basis. They just... go away forever.
DVCers might be a bit more problematic.
flynnibus
Premium Member
None of what you wrote has anything to do with the material under discussion.
Civil enforcement of the district's codes.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
They're proposing being allowed to disconnect fire alarm systems (unless required by law) if fines haven't been paid or if proof of false alarms from a system hasn't been corrected? Gee so much for safety
Ah, my bad.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
Could this, in theory, mean the board could create a noise ordinance for after 9pm, and in turn prohibit nightly shows?
flynnibus
Premium Member
In theory... I could see it impacting Fireworks for instance. Under health, etc I could see them creating some limits. It's all about them working out how to get the scope under the empowerments defined for the district. Health, sanitation, etc.
But at $500/day max... Disney could just as easy just pay the fine every time and tell them to off
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
Another question, the meetings always have a time for public comment. Some DS business owners, RCFD, and such have spoken during those times. With the new lobbyist rule they are looking to put in place, could that prevent them from speaking at the meetings?