News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

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jinx8402

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DisneyDebRob said:
A response.


Ron DeSantis says Disney lawsuit is political | Fortune

"They’re upset because they’re having to live by the same rules as everybody else."
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What a load of 💩. Living by the same rules as everyone else would be dissolving the district, but they realized that would be the worst possible scenario for the state/counties. They now live under rules that are probably more unfair then the "benefit" they received previously, which is a hostile board that is not motivated to work with their constituents since there are no repercussions (elections of landowners in the district). Every damn thing this man says about the situation is a lie for headlines for those who don't care enough to know the truth.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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jinx8402 said:
What a load of 💩. Living by the same rules as everyone else would be dissolving the district, but they realized that would be the worst possible scenario for the state/counties. They now live under rules that are probably more unfair then the "benefit" they received previously, which is a hostile board that is not motivated to work with their constituents since there are no repercussions (elections of landowners in the district). Every damn thing this man says about the situation is a lie for headlines for those who don't care enough to know the truth.
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More specifically, it would be removing EVERY special district in the state and no longer giving any tax incentives to attract any business. After all, they want to be fair. Weird that they don't do that. It's almost like they are completely and totally full of it and just want to express faux, ginned up outrage to appeal to a small isolated group that no longer wants to engage with reality.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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MagicHappens1971 said:
I think it’s gonna be hard for any judge to rule against Disney. Citizens United is a landmark precedent that covers the 1A argument, the Constitution covers the other arguments, and Disney even cited the FL Supreme Court decision supporting RCID & its public purpose.

Either way this is all very unfortunate for the governor as this is all working against his presidential bid. Stepping into the ring with one of the worlds largest and most beloved entertainment powerhouses while you are mounting a presidential campaign is a poor choice.
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I’ve said since this started…that citizens United is the hammer for Disney on this…

They said companies have a “voice”…the fact it was to buy pols is irrelevant.

They have to rule that Disney is awarded the rights of the first…and can’t be persecuted for it or they bring CU back into Question.
They won’t cross that line.

Thanks, Tony!
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I wondering about this too.

They can’t actually have a court order “reinstate” a legislative act that was dissolved…so it’s a bigger mess than we are even giving it credit for…

I suppose it can be declared unconstitutional? But that leaves future shenanigans open

This is why you never “pull on the string”
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If the court strikes the new bill which dissolved the district then it reverts back to the existing rules governing the district, since the bill that struck those laws would itself be struck. The board will likely have to be reconstituted following whatever procedures are in the laws governing RCID since every position is now “vacant,” but other than that it wouldn’t be terribly difficult for things to go back to the status quo.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Bob Harlem said:
This is a straight up state law battle, not a Federal issue.
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This is incorrect, since the First Amendment to the US constitution has been “selectively incorporated” to apply to the states, and what Florida did here is a clear 1st Amendment violation. A state cannot pass a law that violates the portions of the BIll of Rights that have been applied to the states, and then claim “this is a state law battle.”
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
This is incorrect, since the First Amendment to the US constitution has been “selectively incorporated” to apply to the states, and what Florida did here is a clear 1st Amendment violation. A state cannot pass a law that violates the portions of the BIll of Rights that have been applied to the states, and then claim “this is a state law battle.”
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Indeed.

You can end run a court ruling case law that was decided in these last 200 years…as we’ve seen recently to disastrous political repercussions…

But you can’t touch the 1700s parchment.

This is remarkable stupid for a state to try.
 
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GBAB1973

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
This is incorrect, since the First Amendment to the US constitution has been “selectively incorporated” to apply to the states, and what Florida did here is a clear 1st Amendment violation. A state cannot pass a law that violates the portions of the BIll of Rights that have been applied to the states, and then claim “this is a state law battle.”
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Bob seems to be a DeSantis fan who is making arguments that either puts the best spin on what DeSantis has done and make legal arguments that would benefit he and the legislature. I've seen other DeSantis supporters and backers claim on twitter that this should be in state court, not federal court. Why? Because they think state courts will be way more favorable to them than federal court.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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GBAB1973 said:
Bob seems to be a DeSantis fan who is making arguments that either puts the best spin on what DeSantis has done and make legal arguments that would benefit he and the legislature. I've seen other DeSantis supporters and backers claim on twitter that this should be in state court, not federal court. Why? Because they think state courts will be way more favorable to them than federal court.
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The word you’re looking for is “misguided”…according to the O/E
 
AEfx

AEfx

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GBAB1973 said:
My comment was crude, I was just saying that you don't have to be thanking Disney at every turn for what they did or praise them constantly or consider them the savior of Central Florida and that you should never question anything they do because of that.

But the reality is if Disney never set foot in Central Florida, that part of the state would look very different today.
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Not to mention, it's extremely objective if that very different would be better or worse.
 
V.i.n.c.e.n.t.

V.i.n.c.e.n.t.

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GBAB1973 said:
My comment was crude, I was just saying that you don't have to be thanking Disney at every turn for what they did or praise them constantly or consider them the savior of Central Florida and that you should never question anything they do because of that.

But the reality is if Disney never set foot in Central Florida, that part of the state would look very different today.
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If Disney never built in Florida then Florida would just be South Alabama
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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I just had a thought let’s say the bill is passed. The developer contract is then null and void until this is brought up in the courts.

In the time that it takes for this legal case to run its course. Can the board cause some serious damage as a last ditch effort to mess with things in the district? Or is there some kind of freeze in place when a suit is filed?
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Surferboy567 said:
I just had a thought let’s say the bill is passed. The developer contract is then null and void until this is brought up in the courts.

In the time that it takes for this legal case to run its course. Can the board cause some serious damage as a last ditch effort to mess with things in the district.? Or is there some kind of freeze in place when a suit is filed?
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Injunction, junction, what’s your function?


…I Would be surprised if it isn’t today. RCID will be frozen. Or whatever they renamed it?
 

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