SteveBrickNJ
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I am not in denial that Major Television News and Reuters historically used to want to appeal to everyone. They did not openly pick an ideology and dismiss half the country.
That opinion I am sticking with.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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That opinion I am sticking with.
lazyboy97o
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The idea that the government should be able to retaliate against speech is not an ideology that should be respected.
BoardroomBrad
New Member
I’m sorry, but Conservatives brought The Sword of Citizens United to the country. Now they don’t want Corporations to speaks out because it’s against them instead of in support? Live by the sword, die by the sword, I say.
peter11435
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To be fair most stocks are down. Including comcast (by a higher percentage) that was unaffected by this legislation.
BoardroomBrad
New Member
But TWDC does. Forget the tax part, the RCID allows them to get maintenance done quicker, approve Food and Beverage offerings, and most importantly, approve and maintain their own construction projects (if you thought Guardians took forever, imagine it with Red Tape). They also are not party to noice ordinances for the county (without it, THERE ARE NO FIREWORKS)
HM Spectre
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Executives using their corporation's economic power to attack a person or entity who has an opposing view is inherently wrong in a democracy. Their power only exists because the board and shareholders elected them. Their job is to serve.
This is not me arguing against the point you're making, I'm simply showing that your words work both ways. It's not just the politicians flexing power in a potentially inappropriate manner here. Individuals within a corporation using the power of a corporation to influence legislation unrelated to their business is also incredibly dangerous.
This behavior in general is gross for all parties involved. But since this is a Disney forum, Disney should be focused on running their company and providing wonderful entertainment for EVERYONE... the company should not be weaponized to fight the political battles of a select few.
Gringrinngghost
Well-Known Member
You do know Health Inspections are carried out by the county. Plus RCID has not say for if they will serve blue or green milk,
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It doesn’t work both ways. If a company does not like the actions of its officers it can remove them. It is not the place of government.
BoardroomBrad
New Member
Health Inspection, and Food, Beverage, and Liquor licenses are separate. Health is run by Dept. of Health, others are done by Dept. of Hotels and Restaurants.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
You can view one as inherently wrong if you wish. The other though is not only wrong it’s also unconstitutional.
GimpYancIent
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There was a time, yes, when journalists / reporters truly presented the story. Sadly, though there are some serious up and coming students of true journalism / reporting, there are just as many if not more that taint the story. Now more than ever it is vital to corroborate a story from / through multiple sources to get a semblance of what is true.
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Citizens United was a terrible thing.
Gosh, this forum is just become Facebook. Because someone has a nuanced opinion about something, they are automatically assigned a straw man category where they must be 100% for one side or another.
This is why the country is in such a sad state of affairs. And this thread is a textbook example of it, unfortunately.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Reedy Creek does not handle any of that
flynnibus
Premium Member
HM Spectre
Well-Known Member
Yes it does. If voters don't like the actions of their politicians, they can remove them.
Disney is able to wade into political waters and take sides on an issue. Politicians are able to revoke special privileges given to corporations they no longer feel are neutral.
The issue isn't whether they can, it's whether they should. And I'd argue the answer for both parties is no.
Chip Chipperson
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Guests might not care (or even know) if RCID exists right now, but they'll care when the roads aren't maintained with the same standards or frequency that exists now and they'll care if their drive or bus ride to the parks is slowed by roadwork that would have been scheduled better under RCID because the County doesn't have the time or resources to worry about what's convenient.
Are they completely unaffected?
Let's imagine Orange County taxes do go up by 10%. That would mean Disney and Universal Studios, both in Orange County, have increased property taxes to Orange County by 10%. Universal Studios get's nothing for the extra money. Disney gets to stop paying the RCID extra taxes. As long as the Orange County increase is less, and since it's spread out over more groups it should be, it'll be a net reduction for Disney.
Disney also loses all the influence and control, but that has an unknown worth as of now.
BoardroomBrad
New Member
They’ll also care if Disney can no longer offer free Bus Services. Because the Buses are technically public transportation, they are regulated by the local government, in this case Reedy Creek.
HM Spectre
Well-Known Member
If it's unconstitutional, we'll find out well before it's actually enacted (and that's a good thing). DeSantis was JAG lawyer. You'd assume he'd know whether this is unconstitutional or not before pursuing it. But I'm fine sitting back and waiting for the process to play out as people much smarter than me and more informed of the law make that determination.
Again, stay on topic. Reedy Creek. Not what led up to this, and not how it will have an impact on elections, etc. Just how will it impact WDW, The Disney corporation, the adjacent counties, the state and it's residents, the guests, and the Disney employees.
And please treat other posters with courtesy- even if you think they don't deserve it!
I'm reposting this for posters who have arrived "late to the party."
And please treat other posters with courtesy- even if you think they don't deserve it!
I'm reposting this for posters who have arrived "late to the party."