News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[wdwmagic]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

Not sure, but I can't see what the new board has to do with tax issues with the various counties. Other than justifying his pay and existence?

 

[Figgy1]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

I find that insane
Hire more lawyers?

 

[mkt]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

Welcome to third world Disney, where precedents and rules are more suggestions that can be ignored when inconvenient.

 

[Rteetz]

Ok what really gets me is Garcia going on about making the district better for surrounding communities and tax payers…. Why is that the district’s responsibility?

It’s not but Disney has always at least seemingly presented as a good neighbor. They likely won’t stop that either. The board to me likes to present that they have all this power to do all these things that seem great but they really can’t do even half of it.

 

[GoofGoof]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

Not likely.

Their justification is Disney pays taxes to the district based off of the assessments by the county so if the assessment is higher the district gets higher taxes. Of course it was setup this way to save money and time not having independent assessments but also because Disney controlled the district so the counties were a less biased appraiser. These guys are acting as if they run a general government not a special tax district.

 

[Figgy1]

Does anybody have any stats on how many false alarms there are a year? This sounds like overkill and punishment

 

[flynnibus]

Always strikes me as odd that these board members and now the adminstrator talk about the parks as "ours". Seems they think they have some kind of ownership of something they had absolutely nothing to do with.

We the people!!

Sing it!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Does anybody have any stats on how many false alarms there are a year? This sounds like overkill and punishment

My guess:

The firefighters are royally ticked when they have to respond to a false alarm.​

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Disney doesn't punish those responsible for false alarms enough to their liking.​

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The firefighters present this to the New Board.​

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In order to curry favor with the firefighters and make themselves seem like the heroes, punishing those who make false alarms is now their top priority.​

 

[flynnibus]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

My guess is they spend time ‘advising’ giving jnfo and data that would support the assessor’s push for higher valuation. Basically just actively push details to help push a higher valuation

 

[lazyboy97o]

Is there a precedent for this? Can he actually do anything?

There is the concept of amicus curiae (“friend of the court”) where entities that are not a party to a case can offer input, typically through a court submission known as an Amicus Brief. I don’t know how they would actually have standing to start their own legal action.

Not sure, but I can't see what the new board has to do with tax issues with the various counties. Other than justifying his pay and existence?

It is the basis for how their own taxes are collected. But it’s also intentionally not their job.

 

[sblank]

Does anybody have any stats on how many false alarms there are a year? This sounds like overkill and punishment

Not if you're looking for any means to increase revenue.

 

[flynnibus]

My guess:

The firefighters are royally ticked when they have to respond to a false alarm.​

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Disney doesn't punish those responsible for false alarms enough to their liking.​

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The firefighters present this to the New Board.​

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In order to curry favor with the firefighters and make themselves seem like the heroes, punishing those who make false alarms is now their top priority.​

Mkre ghan likely its like…,

Ok we have thr fire department… what can we do to make disney pay more for…

Charging for false alarm dispatches isn’t uncommon btw…

 

[lazyboy97o]

Just where the heck are they going to put this housing? Do they not know what the district own is swamp

At what point does this become a violation of the Sunshine Laws? It sure seems like the Board has already decided that they want housing in the district. When was the work done to support this conclusion? When were the notices and public hearings? They’re pushing a policy that contradicts their state approved comprehensive plan that was never discussed in open, noticed meetings.

They also don’t seem to realize that these residents would have standing to challenge the legal validity of their position.

 

[StaceyH_SD]

I haven’t been listening since before Gilzean spoke but I made note of something Garcia said about Gilzean’s various duties. He mentioned that the new leglslation establishing CFTOD required them to provide “reports” to the legislature (i think? or state?). Is that true? He also said that they were going to need to bring on an urban planner at some point too.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Mkre ghan likely its like…,

Ok we have thr fire department… what can we do to make disney pay more for…

Charging for false alarm dispatches isn’t uncommon btw…

Jumping through Reedy Creek’s hoops and requirements is uncommon. We’re going to make you install these sensitive systems and now we’re going to make you pay for what we demanded.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I haven’t been listening since before Gilzean spoke but I made note of something Garcia said about Golzean’s various duties. He mentioned that the new leglslation establishing CHFTOD required them to provide “reports” to the legislature (i think? or state?). Is that true? He also said that they were going to need to bring on an urban planner at some point too.

Yes, they’re required to report on which powers they don’t think they need anymore.

 

[Figgy1]

I haven’t been listening since before Gilzean spoke but I made note of something Garcia said about Golzean’s various duties. He mentioned that the new leglslation establishing CHFTOD required them to provide “reports” to the legislature (i think? or state?). Is that true? He also said that they were going to need to bring on an urban planner at some point too.

I guess the alligators need better housing and business opportunities

 

[flynnibus]

Jumping through Reedy Creek’s hoops and requirements is uncommon. We’re going to make you install these set ice systems and now we’re going to make you pay for what we demanded.

Like counties that require you to have municipal water… but make you pay for the infrastructure? Or new fire codes that require sprinklers in homes, but you pay for it etc.

Again, not supporting the motives… but for people unfamiliar these systems are not uncommon

 

[MrPromey]

Not sure, but I can't see what the new board has to do with tax issues with the various counties. Other than justifying his pay and existence?

Well, if they're trying to lean on Disney, they can't just collect money and keep it. They have to spend it and if they can put themselves on the hook for paying for things outside of the district, that would mean the money they collect from Disney (and others in the district) can be spent on things that may not provide any benefit to anyone being taxed there.

One would think the taxes collected for the two counties would cover the burdens of those in their tax district for those two counties, completely, but if these guys are looking to spend, this would be one way to do it without actually improving anything for the mouse while trying to make it sound like they're just being good public servants.

 

[sblank]

Well, if they're trying to lean on Disney, they can't just collect money and keep it. They have to spend it and if they can put themselves on the hook for paying for things outside of the district, that would mean the money they collect from Disney (and others in the district) can be spent on things that may not provide any benefit to anyone being taxed there.

One would think the taxes collected for the two counties would cover the burdens of those in their tax district, completely but if these guys are looking to spend, this would be one way to do it without actually improving anything for the mouse.

It's also a good way to funnel district money to your buddies who have no connection or reason to do business with Disney or the district.