News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yogi, always a source of insight and wisdom.

“50% of the game is 90% mental”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney should take advantage of this strike.

Get all the Star Wars Geeks all do a zoom call from their parents' basements to collaborate on a Star Wars film.

Guaranteed Box Office Hit!

There is zero doubt it would be more well received than anything in the presidio these days

 

[hopemax]

I miss the days when companies were heartless bastards who only cared about money.

I don't know what makes people think they aren't? And it's all just virtue-signaling. I realized we had crossed a point when during Walmart's holiday and SuperBowl commercials, going back pre-pandemic featured a much broader representation of "family." They are being heartless bastards by ignoring the pleas of those screaming, "won't someone please think of the children!" If their lawyers are so good, then why should we assume they don't also have the stats and demo reports to know that these short-term temper tantrums will eventually subside, and underneath there is more long-term growth potential by selling to the traditionally marginalized, their friends & families, and allies. The reality is most people don't care enough to change their habits, but may say something in support to whomever scored the last point which can obfuscate the big picture.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

And in all of this, the state hasn't rescinded the $586 million tax incentive provided to TWDC to move WDI to Central Florida.

This is a big part of the reason I still think this is about press rather than punishing Disney, if the state really wanted to hurt Disney this would be the easiest and quickest way to do it, the fact they haven’t shows they still know a healthy Disney = a healthy Orlando.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

This is a big part of the reason I still think this is about press rather than punishing Disney, if the state really wanted to hurt Disney this would be the easiest and quickest way to do it, the fact they haven’t shows they still know a healthy Disney = a healthy Orlando.

Disney would just not move WDI here. They'd sell the land and cancel the project

 

[afterabme]

If Disney were looking again for a new location for WDI, will they be able to match or beat the tax incentives offered by Florida?

Being close to the parks matters, but other things like available tax incentives can influence the location.

 

[disneylandtour]

Maybe I am reading too much into it but it seems like they are using this as a way to say Disney is stopping the first responders from getting this deal. Making them look like the enemy.

I think the problem here is that the first responders are starting to realize that, with this lawsuit, all contracts made by the Florida Tourism board might be nullified if the board is removed. To put it plainly, they backed the removal of the Reedy Creek Board and now they are in a difficult political place because that same board may be reinstated and, in case it weren't obvious, they've indicated how deeply they opposed them. Admittedly, in this case, public safety seems a good reason. But in short, I think they're starting to wonder if they've screwed themselves by going with the Governor's plan.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a big part of the reason I still think this is about press rather than punishing Disney, if the state really wanted to hurt Disney this would be the easiest and quickest way to do it, the fact they haven’t shows they still know a healthy Disney = a healthy Orlando.



110 degree Vegas heat with no humidity > 90 degree LA heat with 25% humidity > 80 degree Orlando heat with 75% humidity.

As a resident of the sun I’m often surprised by how miserable both LA and Orlando weather can feel, when its 105 where you live and the forecast says 80 degrees you expect to be comfortable on vacation but that’s often not the case in either city. Cool weather in LA is usually very nice at least, 50 degrees in Vegas is heaven, 50 degrees in LA is chilly, 50 degrees in humid Orlando feels like I’m freezing.

…what tipped you off this was all a publicity stunt?

 

[Disstevefan1]

The board is going to weaponize first responder pay as a way to try and get these developer agreements voided. Extremely low even for this board.

Apparently the first responders union was negotiating for a contract for over 4 years?

It's too bad RCID couldn't have got this done three years ago.

 

[GoofGoof]

I think the problem here is that the first responders are starting to realize that, with this lawsuit, all contracts made by the Florida Tourism board might be nullified if the board is removed. To put it plainly, they backed the removal of the Reedy Creek Board and now they are in a difficult political place because that same board may be reinstated and, in case it weren't obvious, they've indicated how deeply they opposed them. Admittedly, in this case, public safety seems a good reason. But in short, I think they're starting to wonder if they've screwed themselves by going with the Governor's plan.

I don’t know what will happen but I’d be very disappointed if Disney and RCID didn’t honor the new contracts if they win in court and the old board is reinstated. Their first action should be to re-sign the Fire Department contract.

 

[LAKid53]

If Disney were looking again for a new location for WDI, will they be able to match or beat the tax incentives offered by Florida?

Being close to the parks matters, but other things like available tax incentives can influence the location.

You don't think other states would be willing to have WDI relocated to their state, enticing Disney by tax incentives? Georgia had a booming film industry...the one that Florida ed away.

 

[Andrew C]

If I was getting a generic light beer I always preferred Miller Lite but it has nothing to do with the ads. If it’s hot out and you can get one of those Bud Light Lime metal bottles from a bucket of ice or a low temp fridge it’s pretty refreshing. I’d rather just drink a local beer these days.

Miller lite was my cheap/light beer of choice as well. Mix it up more nowadays..except IPAs.

 

[Andrew C]

If I can't find a local brewery's beer, I find Sam Adams seasonal beers a good substitute.

Their winter lager is good.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Apparently the first responders union was negotiating for a contract for over 4 years?

It's too bad RCID couldn't have got this done three years ago.

…honestly…they’re still well paid for Florida…don’t make it a big deal.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

…what tipped you off this was all a publicity stunt?

That a politician was involved. I’m still amazed it’s gone on for this long and to this extent, a year ago I was positive they’d quietly undo it and nothing would change, then I got concerned when they actually changed the board, now I’m back to thinking it’s just a publicity stunt that will have little to no affect on the parks, unfortunately it‘s resulted in some changes that will likely cause unnecessary bureaucratic headaches for both Disney and the state of Florida long after the PR perpetrators are gone.

 

[WDWHero]

…honestly…they’re still well paid for Florida…don’t make it a big deal.

They tend to forget Long Island firefighters are a lot of the time volunteers and get paid in tax incentives.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If Disney were looking again for a new location for WDI, will they be able to match or beat the tax incentives offered by Florida?

Being close to the parks matters, but other things like available tax incentives can influence the location.

I think they should circle back around and get a deal from Newsome…cater to people, not cowfields

You don't think other states would be willing to have WDI relocated to their state, enticing Disney by tax incentives? Georgia had a booming film industry...the one that Florida ed away.

I think they could…but would he hesitant to go anywhere that may decide they’re “good fundraising potential” in the future.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That a politician was involved. I’m still amazed it’s gone on for this long and to this extent, a year ago I was positive they’d quietly undo it and nothing would change, then I got concerned when they actually changed the board, now I’m back to thinking it’s just a publicity stunt that will have little to no affect on the parks, unfortunately it‘s resulted in some changes that will likely cause unnecessary bureaucratic headaches for both Disney and the state of Florida long after the PR perpetrators are gone.

I’m just messing with you.

But I’m gonna stand on what I said day 1: stunt. And an easy to sniff one.

Florida legislature can do whatever it wants…is what it is…

But desantis got himself into a no win scenario now.

How do you “win”? Pick a fight with Disney…crass and most people LIKE wdw…

…or get it handed to you by Disney in public

 

[Disstevefan1]

…honestly…they’re still well paid for Florida…don’t make it a big deal.

I can't speak for their salaries; I have no idea how much of a big deal it was.
I was just commenting on how long they were working without a contract, and it was too bad RCID couldn't get it done.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can't speak for their salaries; I have no idea how much of a big deal it was.
I was just commenting on how long they were working without a contract, and it was too bad RCID couldn't get it done.

No I hear that…but it’s more common than you think