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[mkt]

Yep!

Alrighty. Standby for uploads as a reply, and you put them where you see fit.

 

[LAKid53]

I think what would be interesting to find in discovery is emails or communication between DeSantis and the legislature on this topic.

Agree. Those would further bolster Disney's position. The governor's office routinely communicates with members of the Legislature. But those emails will negate his position that "it wasn't me, it was them".

 

[LAKid53]

I just wish they would link to the documents.

Doesn't bother me. Guess it's because I spent several years navigating through such portals.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Nothing Disney has done in reaction to the government moves has been for show. I would even say, Disney has specifically avoided doing anything remotely related to just PR. They were super quiet when we were all wondering how they would respond. Each Disney step has been purposeful and with direct impact. Even if smaller than many would predict, specifically because they are not doing show.

The Government passed through just for show and into actual impact long ago. Each passed bill is direct impact and no longer just show. Each board action is direct impact and no longer show.

We could imagine that talk about controlling Disney content is still just show, since they haven't taken any action to exert that control yet. But, that feels very superficial. All the actions they have taken indicate that they're trying to achieve the leverage for this exact action.

I was talking from the perspective of DeSantis and the board, not Disney, the Government side has been barking and growling since day one, Disney has been trying to de-escalate since day one.

I’d argue the bills passed so far are all show too, a board who controls water management, roads, etc… it could impact operations but likely won’t (imho) but are a thorn in Disneys side, monorail inspections… they could impact operations but likely won’t (imho) but are a thorn in Disney side.

The Gov wants to look like he‘s in control but nothing has given him any real power over Disney (yet), influence but not power.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Doesn't bother me. Guess it's because I spent several years navigating through such portals.

I’m familiar with the different portals as well, it’s just annoying. If you’re reporting on public documents then just give people the link to the public document. Not just for court documents, but also things like permits.

 

[Disstevefan1]

There are people who also want to leave the state and will leave the state. Likely not enough to offset all of the recent newcomers, but enough to be noticed.

Not sure what, "but enough to be noticed" means. There are so many entering the state, anyone leaving with not be noticed.

A really good indicator would be the comparing cost of renting a U-haul going to Florida compared to renting a U-haul leaving Florida.

When it's more expensive to rent a U-haul to leave Florida, that would be a good indicator more folks are leaving Florida.

 

[Disstevefan1]

100% their little announcement about the Parental Rights bill was for show. It was all to try to put out the flames with their employees who were upset and nothing more.

They should have handled their people better internally, telling them they are working behind the scenes to change the law.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Florida and Disney used to be magical for me. Now I don't care to do either.

What if they bought you dinner?

 

[Figgy1]

They should have handled their people better internally, telling them they are working behind the scenes to change the law.

Why? They had every right to speak out. They should not be facing any retaliation if they spoke out or not.

 

[LAKid53]

Why? They had every right to speak out. They should not be facing any retaliation if they spoke out or not.
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The 1st amendment doesn't apply to acts of private companies. However, the STATE cannot punish Disney's employees for speaking out. There probably was some internal communications with CMs after the bill was signed, in addition to the public statement.

 

[mkt]

Yep!

Expect 4 replies. This one plus 3 more.

 

[mkt]

Expect 4 replies. This one plus 3 more.

Two more after this

 

[mkt]

Two more after this

One more after this

 

[mkt]

One more after this

And done

 

[flynnibus]

Hey @wdwmagic, do you have any server space? I've got pacer access and will cover the cost of downloads.

Please use the RECAP extension - which basically pumps your PACER downloads into a public shared archive at courtlistener.com

CourtListener

Create alerts, search for and browse the latest court opinions, PACER documents, judges, and oral arguments. Updated automatically with the latest court documents. An initiative of Free Law Project.

www.courtlistener.com

From there anyone can get all the docs and relevant cites for a case that have been collected an aggregated. Much better than duplicating storage alone outside of Pacer. It will have a case history page that people can follow, etc

 

[afterabme]

And done

Thanks for posting this!

 

[Brian]

I think that at this point there's about 200 pages worth of retorts about how the first amendment is sacrosanct, DeSantis was wrong to do what he did, and retaliation for the exercise of free speech is illegal. For what it's worth, I don't think there's a single person here who would disagree. But it shouldn't have to be added as a disclaimer each and every time someone says something even remotely critical of Disney.

It's really just a bad faith retort.

 

[Notypeo]

Just look at Andrew Warren, who has a case against the Gov coming up soon. These people don't believe in democracy or free speech.

Andrew Warren is the elected prosecutor that DeSantis removed from office.

The next one on his list looks to be the Orange-Osceola prosecutor Monique Worrell. There seems to be a long backstory here. But, unless I’m wrong, replacing her with a DeSantis crony could protect the current CFTOD board from prosecutorial scrutiny over any sunshine law violations.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Why? They had every right to speak out. They should not be facing any retaliation if they spoke out or not.
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Of course, they have 1A rights.

Just my opinion, if they thought their free speech would have triggered the gov. they would not have done it.

They would have worked behind the scenes to reverse the Parental rights law. They had the power to do it.

After the fact, there where smarter ways to handle this.

Disney can't work to change the Parental rights law now!

They are now fighting (in public) over the special district.

Thats very bad, it will uncover the sweet deal they had for 50 years.

 

[mkt]

Just my opinion, if they thought their free speech would have triggered the gov. they would not have done it.

In the United States, it doesn't matter what those in power think or how their feelings might get hurt: your free speech goes above that.

Thats very bad, it will uncover the sweet deal they had for 50 years.

Coincidentally, a better deal for Disney would have just been to get rid of RCID altogether and let Orange County regulate them, since Disney's tax bill would've gone down then.

So really, the sweetness of their deal was control. Control that they paid for.