News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[flynnibus]

It was OBVIOUSLY a joke, so laughing about it is the intended result.

It was a prickish, immature, juvenile joke, and that's bad for its own reasons. But it was not a "threat."

It was akin to the "I'm just sayin...." kind of line.

I'm not committing to it, but my inclusion of it is intended to send a message.

 

[Rteetz]

Yes they can block permits, but I suspect the next Disney CEO will be anti-woke

Again good luck with that

 

[flynnibus]

And if Disney isn't compensated fairly, it will sue.

yeah but it also puts Disney in a tough spot...

Argue for years the land isn't worth much due to it's inability to develop it...
... Then turn around and sue you aren't getting paid ENOUGH because of it's future value?

The actual $/acre I'm sure is the least of Disney's woe in such a spat

 

[Vicarious Fan]

As a native Australian, I just saw on my YouTube feed a rather lengthy news item on our equivalent of the BBC with a US contributor who seemed more across the details of the RCID than most I have seen:

ok wow that is a REALLY Great summation of what is going on and shows how average people are viewing this whole thing.

 

[Disney Analyst]

lol.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Yes they can block permits, but I suspect the next Disney CEO will be anti-woke

Again I ask, why do you think the government has any right to dictate what IP Disney includes in its parks or what positions the company takes on social issues? If these things bother you so much, why not just find another company with values that align with whatever yours are instead of rooting for dictatorial government punishment?

 

[LittleBuford]

I'm more of baffeled by why Desantis thinks this is going to work out of him. I'd be concerened for disneys' future if there it was possible for Destantis to win this fight. But given Disney's lawyers and ability to influence campaigns I don't think disney creative is going to be hurt in any way from this.
I'm more worried about lightning pass still being pushed

If this proves very costly for Disney, I can see it adversely affecting the company’s broader operations (though perhaps I’m misunderstanding the financial structures involved and worrying for nothing).

 

[Heath]

To those Disney fans here who aren’t bothered by what’s happening: Are you not concerned at all about the potential long-term impact of all this nonsense on the running of the parks and the company’s creative endeavours?

 

[flynnibus]

To those Disney fans here who aren’t bothered by what’s happening: Are you not concerned at all about the potential long-term impact of all this nonsense on the running of the parks and the company’s creative endeavours?

Aren't you picking up the hints? Some people think this will save Splash Mountain and Pecos Bill... *rolleyes*

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It was akin to the "I'm just sayin...." kind of line.

I'm not committing to it, but my inclusion of it is intended to send a message.

Yes, exactly.

It was an "I'm your daddy now, Bob" message. Still bad, obviously. But not "let's literally draw up blueprints for a penitentiary on Buena Vista Drive."

 

[flynnibus]

Yes, exactly.

So .. not joking then.

Saying something to send a message is still sending the message.

He wasn't adlibing here..

 

[Vacationeer]

ok wow that is a REALLY Great summation of what is going on and shows how average people are viewing this whole thing.

I’m not comfortable with it being called a ‘special taxing district’ multiple times. That’s not why it was created or its purpose.

 

[Vicarious Fan]

If this proves very costly for Disney, I can see it adversely affecting the company’s broader operations (though perhaps I’m misunderstanding the financial structures involved and worrying for nothing).

they spent over 1 billion on Fast Pass plus system... this isn't even going to cause them to increase the price of churros by a penny
Edit: Joking aside letting Desatnis "win" would be worse for their stocks then spending a couple billion to protect their empire.

 

[flynnibus]

I’m not comfortable with it being called a ‘special taxing district’ multiple times. That’s not why it was created or its purpose.

it's not far off - that's generally what these things are. Special districts so a specific taxing authority can be setup to fufill the distinct needs the district was setup for.

In this case, it was about development and infrastructure for this region to support the Disney company's planned uses for the region

 

[DCBaker]

Looking to what Disney's response will be to media outlets asking for comments from them.

They are declining to comment, as expected.

"Disney declined to comment on Wednesday."

DeSantis Appointees Seek to ‘Void’ Disney World Agreement

A board overseeing the resort wants lawyers to prepare a resolution to stop Disney from maintaining vast control over the complex for decades to come.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Surferboy567]

They are declining to comment, as expected.

"Disney declined to comment on Wednesday."

DeSantis Appointees Seek to ‘Void’ Disney World Agreement

A board overseeing the resort wants lawyers to prepare a resolution to stop Disney from maintaining vast control over the complex for decades to come.

www.nytimes.com

They really need to do something quickly. This can spiral out of control very quickly (more so than it already has).

I’m sure they are prepping a response but I have thought that before only for them to do nothing.

 

[scottieRoss]

Well Disney could effectively rubber stamp permits and whereas UNI has to go a far more orthodox route by goingto the city to have permits approved. I'm hoping with the 'District formally known as RCID' that supervisor board uses their powers for good and block permits which will cause changes that erode culture.

I think you are confused. Disney did not approve permits. Reedy Creek along with SFWMD approve the permits. Disney has no rubber stamp.
Secondly, the purpose of building permits have nothing to do with culture. And if that were used as a condition for building permits, it would be struck down faster than you can say "I have no clue"

 

[LAKid53]

lol.

Because a party to an agreement NEVER drafts the agreement.

 

[el_super]

To those Disney fans here who aren’t bothered by what’s happening: Are you not concerned at all about the potential long-term impact of all this nonsense on the running of the parks and the company’s creative endeavours?

The company's long term creative endeavours are and always will be shaped by long term market trends. Nothing said or done in Florida is going to change that.

The pushback they are seeing though may be something they end up having to address. If you end up in a situation where a red audience will only want red content, but a blue audience will accept blue and sometimes red, it's going to make more financial sense to make more red content. That situation puts creatives in a position of having to be told what they can and cannot do and can cause friction on the business side rather than the audience.

I remember a few articles being posted in the post Iger world mentioning how Iger's teams wouldn't allow creatives to be more open and create the inclusive content they wanted for those very reasons. Now that he's back, there might be another shift back toward restricting content creators.

As far as park ops go: maybe it will be a bigger problem. Disney needs to attract employees and patrons from both sides. Overall, as time marches on, things will get more progressive but in the mean time? How do you attract employees that don't agree with your politics?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I’m not comfortable with it being called a ‘special taxing district’ multiple times. That’s not why it was created or its purpose.

The nice thing was that the idea of it being a 'special taxing district' was raised, and then the contributor explained how it actually worked in historical context such that Disney paid more tax.