News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[castlecake2.0]

A possible development (sorry if this is not news). The writer of this article also believes the developer agreement will stand and the covenant restriction may not.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' new appointees on the board of directors of The Walt Disney Co.'s once self-governing district have hired four law firms to fight agreements approved by the outgoing board last month that strip the current board of much of its power, but experts told Law360 they face a tough battle challenging the agreements.

Old Disney District Board's Deals Likely Legal, Experts Say - Law360

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' new appointees on the board of directors of The Walt Disney Co.'s once self-governing district have hired four law firms to fight agreements approved by the outgoing board last month that strip the current board of much of its power, but experts told Law360 they face a...

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What’s the covenant restrictions? I believe there’s already a similar process in place when Disney sells pieces of land in Celebration requiring builders to follow certain design rules.

 

[chrisvee]

What’s the covenant restrictions? I believe there’s already a similar process in place when Disney sells pieces of land in Celebration requiring builders to follow certain design rules.

that’s the one that restricts what they can build on the land

 

[LittleBuford]

Restricting speech is not evolving. This whole mess existing because someone wants to restrict speech and is using state power to that end. You can’t be appalled at what Florida is doing and also want it to happen in other ways.

Not all restrictions are bad. Regulating news outlets so that they don't tell demonstrable lies is only a good thing.

 

[DisneyHead123]

The Fairness Doctrine (I'm not a scholar of it) doesn't require presenting opposing viewpoints as I understand it but did require that all sides be reported. Lets you decide for yourself rather than a programming director deciding on what to show you on the "news"

For background / context… somewhere in the 2010s in the US, there was a lot of debate over whether the news could ever really be “unbiased” and report “all sides”. There was controversy on both sides of the spectrum - sometimes one “side” of an argument was seen as illegitimate, and not worthy of any airtime. Reporting “both sides” was seen as giving the false impression that both sides were equally valid when one side might be a bit of a quack opinion. On the other hand, sometimes there were accusations that legitimate sides of the argument were too far outside the Overton Window, and so were ignored for safe “vanilla” arguments when in fact there were legitimate arguments that were simply too shocking or uncomfortable, and so they were ignored to give the impression that vigorous debate was happening where it wasn’t (this is a the Noam Chomsky “Manufacturing Consent” view.)

In “The View From Nowhere”, Thomas Nagel popularized the debate over whether or not we can be truly unbiased, or if having a human perspective means having an individual, biased perspective. The idea that bias is inherent in a human perspective became the prevalent view. This is when you started to see more talk of “my truth / your truth” vs. “the truth”.

At any rate… this is why the idea of “all sides” was dropped in the US zeitgeist, as people started to feel that truly reporting “all sides” is impossible in a world where truth is seen as mostly relative. In such a world, the number of possible sides is almost infinite. I think the pendulum is swinging the other way now and people are starting to feel we need more of a common ground in our collective truth, if only for practical and functional purposes.

 

[csmat99]

So far, every legal opinion from a truly objective person I have seen has mostly suggested that the covenant stuff will get thrown out but that the DA is rock solid. How can a district sue a developer for an agreement that it voluntarily entered into with said developer?

No legal person has said the covenant stuff will get thrown out.

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[flynnibus]

Not all restrictions are bad. Regulating news outlets so that they don't tell demonstrable lies is only a good thing.

The problem is who gets to decide and keeping them unbiased.

Remember when the attorney general of the US basically became a political pawn?

The juistice and federal depts are all ran by political appointees.

It’s best to not empower them than it is to trust them to act properly. It’s why the bill of rights was enacted in the first place!

And trust me, newspapers were far more radical in the 18th and 19th centuries than they are now

 

[LittleBuford]

The problem is who gets to decide and keeping them unbiased.

Remember when the attorney general of the US basically became a political pawn?

The juistice and federal depts are all ran by political appointees.

It’s best to not empower them than it is to trust them to act properly. It’s why the bill of rights was enacted in the first place!

And trust me, newspapers were far more radical in the 18th and 19th centuries than they are now

I realise such regulation would be very difficult to achieve in the US. In the UK, however, it works quite well, and I’m grateful for it. You can watch most news coverage and actually trust that it is fundamentally reliable and for the most part evenhanded. (This doesn’t go for newspapers.)

 

[Riviera Rita]

This country desperately needs another Walter Cronkite, someone both sides view as impartial and just reporting the news. Unfortunately I think those days of an impartial reporter are behind us.

It’s pretty telling when polls find the most trusted news source in America is the BBC.

A lot of Brits claim the BBC isn't impartial, but, it actually is and theyvwould realise it if they had seen some of the US partisan news channels in action.

 

[Riviera Rita]

A possible development (sorry if this is not news). The writer of this article also believes the developer agreement will stand and the covenant restriction may not.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' new appointees on the board of directors of The Walt Disney Co.'s once self-governing district have hired four law firms to fight agreements approved by the outgoing board last month that strip the current board of much of its power, but experts told Law360 they face a tough battle challenging the agreements.

Old Disney District Board's Deals Likely Legal, Experts Say - Law360

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' new appointees on the board of directors of The Walt Disney Co.'s once self-governing district have hired four law firms to fight agreements approved by the outgoing board last month that strip the current board of much of its power, but experts told Law360 they face a...

www.law360.com

So who is paying for these lawyers? Is it the Florida taxpayers and if so wouldn't they prefer better public services to be provided with that money than it being spent on funding Ronnie's vendetta against a Mickey Mouse company? See what I did there

 

[peter11435]

So who is paying for these lawyers? Is it the Florida taxpayers and if so wouldn't they prefer better public services to be provided with that money than it being spent on funding Ronnie's vendetta against a Mickey Mouse company? See what I did there

The district would be paying for these lawyers. So it’s the RCID taxpayers paying the bill.

 

[Kamikaze]

The district would be paying for these lawyers. So it’s the RCID taxpayers paying the bill.

But I believe the trick is that the budget needs to be balanced at the end of the fiscal year - they can't just keep running a tab on the taxpayers. So that means having to cut other services to pay these firms.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Possibly process violations - that RCID did not provide sufficient notice or whatnot.

You honestly think there is a chance in hell that Disney with all its in-house legal firepower, and the bankroll of a Forture 50 company and access to the beat outside counsel on the planet, and months of time to plan given the time from when this moronic endeavor was started to when when they were going to implement it, missed a timing/notice requirement?

 

[castlecake2.0]

But I believe the trick is that the budget needs to be balanced at the end of the fiscal year - they can't just keep running a tab on the taxpayers. So that means having to cut other services to pay these firms.

Can’t buy the firefighters the speedboat they want if they’re wasting all the money on lawyers

 

[flynnibus]

The minions showing up for their first day of work…

 

[GimpYancIent]

A lot of Brits claim the BBC isn't impartial, but, it actually is and theyvwould realise it if they had seen some of the US partisan news channels in action.

I like the BBC style. It is good to see different presentations of the news both overseas and domestic. The truth, I find, is generally somewhere in the middle of all the varied presentations and comes clear once the broad picture comes together.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Not all restrictions are bad. Regulating news outlets so that they don't tell demonstrable lies is only a good thing.

All this media buzz thing is not a new issue because of internet or cable. People do not learn from history (so much for higher education) so issues are repeated. An example: "William Randolph Hearst (1863-1951) launched his career by taking charge of his father’s struggling newspaper the San Francisco Examiner in 1887. By the 1930s, he had built the nation’s largest media empire, including more than two dozen newspapers in major cities nationwide, magazines, wire and photo services, newsreels, radio stations and film production. As America’s first media tycoon, Hearst pioneered the sensationalized, attention-grabbing methods that would change journalism forever."

 

[thomas998]

You honestly think there is a chance in hell that Disney with all its in-house legal firepower, and the bankroll of a Forture 50 company and access to the beat outside counsel on the planet, and months of time to plan given the time from when this moronic endeavor was started to when when they were going to implement it, missed a timing/notice requirement?

Having worked in large corporations that would often do dirty deals like this appears to be, I can assure you that they would have also left a trail of emails and texts between the folks on the board and Disney's folks. If Florida starts digging I'm betting money it wouldn't take long to find some smoking texts and emails that they colluding together which could open both Disney and the board members to criminal prosecution. I expect Florida to now start going over everything with a fine tooth comb. Sometimes corporations forget that even if they have great lawyers, when they off the government they are fighting an adversary that can also change the rules and make any victory you have worthless. It is always best to stay on good terms with any government you have to deal with... Disney is only going to cause themselves more headaches than they already have.

 

[drnilescrane]

'I don’t know if they can fix this. … I think they may have been outwitted by the board.'

“It’s too early to do anything right now and we’ve got a lot on our plate for the rest of this Session so I don’t anticipate doing anything in the near term.”

Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration is vowing to take legal action against the former board members of the former Reedy Creek Improvement District over their move to cement the Walt Disney Company’s control over the district, but Senate and House leaders are unsure there’s a legislative solution to the issue, at least during the current Regular Session.

Source: https://floridapolitics.com/archive...x-might-have-to-wait-legislative-leaders-say/

 

[thomas998]

A lot of Brits claim the BBC isn't impartial, but, it actually is and theyvwould realise it if they had seen some of the US partisan news channels in action.

The BBC isn't impartial, it only seems that way to people that agree with it. That is pretty much the way all news is. Whether it is done well or not, if you believed the narrative before they gave it you'll think it was impartial. Even when news claims to give both sides of a story they always present one side in a better light. Remember when they pull up those sound bites from experts or whoever, you never know how many others that went the other way were left on the cutting room floor.