Figgy1
Well-Known Member
Charles III of England which is what he isOh yes, THAT's the embarrassing part of all of this...
Charles III of England which is what he isOh yes, THAT's the embarrassing part of all of this...
It is an embarrassing thing to have drafted a document with reference to a title that's been unused for centuries, yes. It's not the only embarrassing thing here, but it's an embarrassing thing.Oh yes, THAT's the embarrassing part of all of this...
Just adding of England is smart in case GB breaks upCharles III of England which is what he is
Fair enough. But they may have shot themselves in the foot with their cleverness by referring to a nonexistent office. It’s clear who they mean, of course, but I imagine a good lawyer can make something of the fact that there is no King Charles III of England. (I hope I’m wrong; perhaps someone with knowledge of the law can weigh in here.)I didn’t say it wasn’t mocking. I said that it doesn’t make it any less valid. I’m not a lawyer so I can’t say if there are other agreements similar.
I’m sure if the lawyers were clever enough to come up with this idea, they were clever enough to make sure it would hold up.Fair enough. But they may have shot themselves in the foot with their cleverness by referring to a nonexistent office. It’s clear who they mean, of course, but I imagine a good lawyer can make something of the fact that there is no King Charles III of England. (I hope I’m wrong; perhaps someone with knowledge of the law can weigh in here.)
Hubris in action- there is always someone cleverer than you!I was just going to say that. There's no such person as "King Charles III, King of England."
Very embarrassing for the lawyers who drafted this. Yikes.
"Boom! Here's the contract! Disney's toast!"King Charles III is not the King of England. He is King of the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland.
Tha last King of England Was WILLIAM III who died in 1702. There hasn't been a King or Queen of England longer than there has been a United States of America.
There hasn’t been a Kingdom of England for over 300 years. I don’t think they were being smart at all, just making the same mistake that others often make when they refer to the UK as England.Just adding of England is smart in case GB breaks up
But they used it as if it was his title.King of England not by title, but by England being in the United Kingdom.
Yes, they could still do almost all of things that would negatively impact Disney’s day-to-day operations.This is probably a stupid question, but could the board just retaliate by closing the roads, since that is still apparently their responsibility?
Okay, but is there another "King Charles III" who has reigned over England or any of the realms?There hasn’t been a Kingdom of England for over 300 years. I don’t think they were being smart at all, just making the same mistake that others often make when they refer to the UK as England.
From the article:
Among other things, the agreement spells out that the district is barred from using the Disney name without the corporation’s approval or “fanciful characters such as Mickey Mouse.”That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document.
Is this intended as trolling? Doesn’t such obvious mockery (I assume that’s what it is) weaken Disney’s case if the agreement is challenged in court?
Agree…
Which means retribution is coming
As I said, it’s clear who is meant, but the reference to him is nonetheless factually incorrect. I’d like to think such technicalities matter much less than intent, but I’m trying to think as a nitpicking lawyer might.Edit: Also, they’re referring to King Charles III, and his descendants, no judge in the world would argue that this is not King Charles III of England/UK and it’s related entities.
Then they can never have a successor…and it never ends."Boom! Here's the contract! Disney's toast!"
(reads over it). "It references a term that's to end upon the death of a successor to a person that...doesn't exist?"
Thanks—this is helpful!Royal Lives Clause: is your trust running out of time?
In older trusts, the “Royal Lives Clause” was a common way of ensuring that a trust could continue for as long as legally possible.www.birketts.co.uk
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