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[CaptainAmerica]

Government can't punish you for freedom of speech, except in very narrow circumstances. This isn't one of those.

I'm old enough to remember when the Left didn't think corporations were entitled to First Amendment protections.

Remember Citizens United? Because everyone seems to have switched sides on the issue.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I am right. Or does the US not believe in slander/libel?

Slander/libel is almost never proven in a US court…and then if a case is one, damages are almost always appealed down to nothing if awarded at all.

In practice…we don’t believe in it.

 

[SirLink]

Government can't punish you for freedom of speech, except in very narrow circumstances. This isn't one of those.

Courts certainly can libelous/slanderous comments

 

[mkt]

I think you were you said 'free speech is according to yourself you can personally attack anyone and be free of consequence.'

When did I say that. Please cite.

No, what I said is that in the US, freedom of speech is freedom from government consequences, with limited exceptions - like screaming fire (which actually might be legal), threatening the life of POTUS, etc.

 

[Disstevefan1]

So the decades of political patronage wasn’t the problem then…it’s that Facebook and Twitter allows fringe nuts to present themselves as “authorities” and carry on?

100 percent correct AND we agree!!! YaY!!!!

 

[SirLink]

Slander/libel is almost never proven in a US court…and then if a case is one, damages are almost always appealed down to nothing if awarded at all.

In practice…we don’t believe in it.

Thankfully here in the UK we have some of strictest libel laws.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So..........
What do you do when you're fed up with ALL US Government??????? I'm a GOP Fan but I don’t need DeSantis shutting down or kicking WDW out of FL either!! Doesn't matter that WDW had a good Weekend with the return of the Easter Pre Parade. Also, M&G and FOF just about back to normal(COVID wise)This Story will not go away!

Does DeSantis really know what’s he's doing? Isn't it known that this could be Political Susisde? Giving Taxpayers over $ 2,000 in New Taxes?


If Chappie is in his biggest hole ever.......Can't Iger or even Eisner smell what’s happening and get TWDC/TDO back on the right track?????

…I’m just gonna back away from this “ticking package”….slowly…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thankfully here in the UK we have some of strictest libel laws.

As an aside…this is one of the most frequently brought up flaws with the American court system.

 

[mikejs78]

Not when Disney internally was issuing libelous statements at a company retreat, re:new legislation, if that was the UK - Disney would be in high court paying damages.

I am right. Or does the US not believe in slander/libel?

You are completely wrong when it comes to US law. In the US, political speech (which is what this was) is sacrosanct. You cannot be punished by the government for saying something about a law or proposed law. Slander and Libel don't apply for legislation or even against politicians unless you make up something completely unfounded (x is a pedophile,.when in actuality they are not). Political speech is sacrosanct in the US.

I think you were you said 'free speech is according to yourself you can personally attack anyone and be free of consequence.'

No, you can personally attack the government and be free of the consequences. That's what free speech is in the US.

 

[Figgy1]

The Golden Oak people?

Nope regular Orange Co residents

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What's a ball park guess of how much money FL residents in total save because of FL resident discounts?

Because... if FL doesn't want to give special considerations to WDW any more, then WDW might not feel any obligation to give FL residents special consideration with FL residents discounts any more.

That would also kill that “freeloading” annual pass system…

Bonus for Bobby!!

 

[mkt]

Courts certainly can libelous/slanderous comments

So which comments by Disney were libelous/slanderous?

 

[LAKid53]

Politics is about power. Disney has long been the beneficiary of being powerful. This is a power move, something for DeSantis to say he stood up to the most iconic business in the state (and one of the most iconic in the country) for his primary run in 2024.

I have little doubt Disney will get some measure of revenge one day. Typically, short-sighted, emotionally motivated political moves don’t work out the best long-term.

Unfortunately the taxpayers in Orange and Osceola Counties will be the ones paying the price...at the tune of $2200 increase in their property taxes. While their homeowners insurance premiums skyrocket. I'm soon to be one of them.

I'd also like to know how the dissolution of the Orlando Airport Authority will impact travelers. And y'all thought it was just WDW impacted by HB3C. Nope it's 132 other special districts created prior to the 1968 constitutional revision. Includes several port authorities, like Canaveral.

 

[Rowlet]

Freedom of speech does not remove freedom of consequence.

Citizens United would like a word.

 

[Ayla]

When the one seeking to impose the consequence is the government, that is exactly what it is!

It is horrifying that Americans don't know what the First Amendment actually is and why it was written.

I edited my post to change people to Americans. I don't expect non-Americans to know, though I do expect them not to act like they know when they have no clue.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Citizens United would like a word.

I don’t have a problem with that joke anymore…now that bloated Antonin is “well pickled”

 

[ABQ]

It is horrifying that people don't know what the First Amendment actually is and why it was written.

This matter seems more something to look into the 14th amendment as much as the 1st.

 

[SirLink]

You are completely wrong when it comes to US law. In the US, political speech (which is what this was) is sacrosanct. You cannot be punished by the government for saying something about a law or proposed law. Slander and Libel don't apply for legislation or even against politicians unless you make up something completely unfounded (x is a pedophile,.when in actuality they are not). Political speech is sacrosanct in the US.



No, you can personally attack the government and be free of the consequences. That's what free speech is in the US.

So if a private individual at a private company makes up a lie about a lawmaker to further pursue a false narrative against legislation.

Can that law maker not take the private company to court? If no that seems like a failed system.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

Nope. Corporations are able to make campaign contributions, and they should absolutely stand against laws that even hint at causing increased bigotry and reduction of human rights.

And yet they're expanding into countries that straight up outlaw homosexuality. The only thing Disney cares about is green.

 

[CaptainMickey]

The Golden Oak people?

Golden Oaks was removed from RCID before any homes were built and sold to the public. Only a few people that work for Disney Live in Reedy Creek.