News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[LAKid53]

Just read the legislative analysis, the districts affected are:

• Bradford County Development Authority, Bradford County.
• Sunshine Water Control District, Broward County.
• Eastpoint Water and Sewer District, Franklin County.
• Hamilton County Development Authority, Hamilton County.
• Marion County Law Library, Marion County.
• Reedy Creek Improvement District, Orange and Osceola Counties.



So... Orange County [i.e. big blue's] problem. Would not bubble up to the State.

The cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake would also remain intact.

If the Legislature goes after Easpoint's, that's going to adversely affect several coastal...and popular tourist destinations...in Franklin County.

Stupid.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The governor is now threatening Twitter with governmental action because they are trying to stop Elon Musk from taking them over, which should help make his view on the relationship between government and private companies more clear.

 

[LAKid53]

The governor is now threatening Twitter with governmental action because they are trying to stop Elon Musk from taking them over, which should help make his view on the relationship between government and private companies more clear.

Not too bright...

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

This, to me, really seems to be the crux of the issue.

However you feel on the legislation, you can vote the way you want and spend your money where you want to. When the government starts retaliating against corporations for stating their opposition to a piece of legislation, that really seems like creeping authoritarianism. I would have thought that everyone would find this being done so openly as chilling for what it says about the health of democracy in Florida if not the whole country.

But you forgot the most important rule of free speech. If I like it? It’s fine. If you don’t like it? Cancelled. The people frequently complaining about cancel culture are upset over a statement from a CEO. It’s hilarious.

 

[flynnibus]

I'm on my way up...

once my kid's ready to start school.

Start a Generator Servicing company. We are now the largest Data Center Market IN THE WOLRD... and larger than the next 4 US markets COMBINED.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I feel this is too glib to describe what is happening here.

Sure, there has long been quid-pro-quo and politicians have always been less willing to look after companies that don't play ball with them. Are there really, though, lots of cases of the government introducing legislation specifically designed to harm the business interest of companies because their executive leadership expressed an opposing view on an unrelated policy issue?

Seems overly complacent to shrug that off as just how democracy functions.

I agree 1000%

This is 50% “straight outta Palermo” vendetta and 50% gross government overreach/intrusion Into the status quo.

 

[LAKid53]

But you forgot the most important rule of free speech. If I like it? It’s fine. If you don’t like it? Cancelled. The people crying about cancel culture are upset over a statement from a CEO. It’s hilarious.

And the actions of the government will have a direct effect on the taxpayers of 2 counties in Central Florida...the fastest growing region in the state.

 

[LAKid53]

I agree 1000%

This is 50% “straight outta Palermo” vendetta and 50% gross government overreach/intrusion Into the status quo.

Going after the source of about 50% of your tourism revenues, which is a major component of the state's revenues, is foolish, to say the least.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I do have to disagree. If they were removed from politics in terms of public messaging, I don't think they would have any issues.

McDonalds and Coca Cola and tons of other big companies exist without taking fake political stances for their audience.

Taking political stances in your publicity only serves to alienate a portion of people. Best to be neutral and not political IMO.

McDonald’s and Coca Cola don’t have the exact same audience and certainly not the same demographics in their employees than Disney.

They are also much more spread out globally as far as earnings/customers and backwards thought patterns are fairly normal in that scope. But so is tolerance. Which is what Los Estados Unidos is embarrassing themselves with.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Going after the source of about 50% of your tourism revenues, which is a major component of the state's revenues, is foolish, to say the least.

I don’t even know how it’s debatable. This is hack politics on a “dictionary” type scale

 

[JoeCamel]

It will be interesting to see how the g'vnr and legislature plan on getting around the provision that to remove an operating district you need the vote of more than half the people in the district. Easy to create hard to remove
My guess it is just one more item for him to campaign on.

 

[Andrew C]

The governor is now threatening Twitter with governmental action because they are trying to stop Elon Musk from taking them over, which should help make his view on the relationship between government and private companies more clear.

Well...Twitter is not a private company. It is publicly traded. But here is the article for those interested I guess.

Florida considers action as a Twitter stakeholder after Elon Musk’s takeover bid rejected, DeSantis says

Twitter has dropped a major roadblock in front of Elon Musk’s effort to take over the company, leaving investors to wonder about the mercurial Tesla CEO’s next move.

www.news4jax.com

 

[lazyboy97o]

The Villages' CDDs are run by people living in those communities for the betterment of those residents.

RCID is run by people beholden to The Walt Disney Company for the betterment of The Walt Disney Company.

There's a huge difference between the State of Florida doing something to improve the lives of people living in Florida versus a corporation headquartered 2,500 miles away.

Through a variety of means, The Villages are still very much controlled by the developers.

RCID is run by former Disney employees who “buy” a plot of land at the start of their terms and “sell” that same plot back to Disney at the end of their terms.

Like any good manager, they will make sure the their part of the company is run well and makes legal & ethical decisions.

But don’t for a minute believe that the RCID board would ever, for example, reject yet another DVC expansion.

Disney selects board members and choses those with demonstrated employment records of taking care of corporate Disney.

You say this as if there aren’t already a variety of existing zoning mechanisms that don’t require approval. Anaheim never specifically approved the new DVC tower at the Disneyland Hotel. Orange County isn’t approved every individual hotel or building at the Universal Orlando Resort South Campus.

The people who work at the Reedy Creek Improvement District are not all residents. The building department in particular is known for being incredibly strict, much more so than the counties and Orlando, and building authorities have wide discretionary powers.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It will be interesting to see how the g'vnr and legislature plan on getting around the provision that to remove an operating district you need the vote of more than half the people in the district. Easy to create hard to remove
My guess it is just one more item for him to campaign on.

Sounds like a PR stunt for your PAC, no?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The Villages' CDDs are run by people living in those communities for the betterment of those residents.

RCID is run by people beholden to The Walt Disney Company for the betterment of The Walt Disney Company.

There's a huge difference between the State of Florida doing something to improve the lives of people living in Florida versus a corporation headquartered 2,500 miles away.

I think you need to add “via any privately run, public sucking development in Florida” to your list of origins and then tell us what you saw in about 10 years…

And I’m not much of a corporate Disney defender…I’ll remind.

 

[mkt]

My guess it is just one more item for him to campaign on.

His success is predicated on the ignorance of his supporters.

 

[flynnibus]

I feel this is too glib to describe what is happening here.

No, I'm simply saying don't act like this is some new threat. Corruption or lack of impartiality is not some new threat - even here in the US.

What specific instances of governmental punishment of private speech are you thinking of?

Sure, there has long been quid-pro-quo and politicians have always been less willing to look after companies that don't play ball with them. Are there really, though, lots of cases of the government introducing legislation specifically designed to harm the business interest of companies because their executive leadership expressed an opposing view on an unrelated policy issue?

Paid any attention to the NFL owners hubbub over the last few years? Baseball anti-trust threats. Heck, POTUS from 2017-2020 constantly having to have people tell him "no sir, you can't do that...". I mean, pick your region and you can go back and find the game of chicken between government and business. The most common topic is like this one... incentives. Because they are things you don't HAVE to do, but do to influence behavior.

Or look at the very basics of people that support (or not) candidates.

Seems overly complacent to shrug that off as just how democracy functions.

Never said it was how things SHOULD be - just don't try to rally around some new made up boogieman. That dude has been here since before 'impartial' was a the cool thing to be.

The trick is to not accept corruption as normal -- but don't try to pretend it's something new that needs new effort to stop. You can't eliminate the thoughts people have - true impartiality is only an ideal - human's can't fully achieve it. The key is making sure such behavior is not tolerated and those that abuse will face consequences.

They will talk about it.. they can feel it... but they shouldn't act on it. Problem is now, not just do some people act on it, but the real problem is people closing their eyes to what it is.

Seperate to that whole motivation thing is simply the topic of 'are they allowed to do it'. And that's what I've said before... you can blend your motivations in with other things that can be justified and get away with it. Knowing that and working to counter the justifications... vs just having emotional outbursts of 'how wrong something it' is the difference between saviors and whiners.

 

[MrPromey]

Without the benefits RCID provides it could take Disney 3 years to build a clone of a coaster from another park.

In that case, I'm all for it!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The governor is now threatening Twitter with governmental action because they are trying to stop Elon Musk from taking them over, which should help make his view on the relationship between government and private companies more clear.

I guess they need more clown material for the “magic joke machine” that provides all the power from Pensacola to Gainesville?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, I'm simply saying don't act like this is some new threat. Corruption or lack of impartiality is not some new threat - even here in the US.

until today I had no idea you were a local in the swamps…

That explains the chip/glib stuff