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[lazyboy97o]

It's not a compromise.

Disney doesn't actually care about the free speech argument. Disney has quietly restarted political contributions (the true reason behind all of this) and now maintains control over their land with a board that will be friendlier while reserving the right to restart the federal appeal if an unfriendly board re-emerges. At the same time DeSantis can claim he won, and his supporters will not question it.

All Disney wanted was control and to stop the damage to their image.

They don’t have control. They are hedging for the near future that they might be targets on a wider scale.

 

[mkt]

They don’t have control. They are cowards who are hedging for the near future that they might be targets on a wider scale.

I'll call them pragmatists.

Pragmatists with control.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'll call them pragmatists.

Pragmatists with control.

Control of what? A new development agreement, which has to lock in what already exists, still hasn’t even been presented for public review.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Control of what? A new development agreement, which has to lock in what already exists, still hasn’t even been presented for public review.

This means the 2032 Zoning Plan is not in force, correct? They now have to come up with a plan that the new board approves of, right?

 

[lazyboy97o]

This means the 2032 Zoning Plan is not in force, correct? They now have to come up with a plan that the new board approves of, right?

The 2020 plan is back as the guide to the zoning. No word still on what the Board thinks needs to be changed. No actual start on that process but the development agreement was somehow supposed to come first and then, in contradiction to its purpose, be changed after a new plan was developed.

 

[flynnibus]

THe TLDR is…. We don’t know…. But clearly Disney and DeSantis’ camp do.

We just have to wait to see what they agreed to

 

[UNCgolf]

THe TLDR is…. We don’t know…. But clearly Disney and DeSantis’ camp do.

We just have to wait to see what they agreed to

I think the biggest problem for Disney is what happens with a new governor who isn't beholden to any agreements DeSantis made. Right now there's nothing stopping a new governor from reverting back to an obstructionist board or any other thing they feel like doing on a whim.

 

[pdude81]

I think the biggest problem for Disney is what happens with a new governor who isn't beholden to any agreements DeSantis made. Right now there's nothing stopping a new governor from reverting back to an obstruction board or any other thing they feel like doing on a whim.

Other than it not being popular at all with the voters in Florida or nationwide. I don't see an upside to the next governor going after the mouse, but I could be missing something.

 

[UNCgolf]

Other than it not being popular at all with the voters in Florida or nationwide. I don't see an upside to the next governor going after the mouse, but I could be missing something.

Just because it's not popular now doesn't mean it won't be popular in the future -- also, depending on the governor, they may not care if it's popular overall as long as it's popular enough to their base.

That's a pretty big risk to take for Disney.

 

[flynnibus]

I think the biggest problem for Disney is what happens with a new governor who isn't beholden to any agreements DeSantis made. Right now there's nothing stopping a new governor from reverting back to an obstructionist board or any other thing they feel like doing on a whim.

“Right now…”

Yes, we all know this. But again, we don’t know what back room deal they have setup. Who knows… it could even include new legislation promises…

Or Disney is just rolling with the hand they are dealt… maybe they have accepted that the time to sunset their advantages of rcid is here… none of us can tell what their true intentions are right now.

 

[UNCgolf]

“Right now…”

Yes, we all know this. But again, we don’t know what back room deal they have setup. Who knows… it could even include new legislation promises…

Or Disney is just rolling with the hand they are dealt… maybe they have accepted that the time to sunset their advantages of rcid is here… none of us can tell what their true intentions are right now.

That seems wildly optimistic.

 

[flynnibus]

That seems wildly optimistic.

Again… we know nothing except both sides have shown signs of positive attitude and certainty of successful outcomes. What does that mean? None if us know. All we can speculate is… they know a lot more than they have said publicly… and obvious things like "desantis is not perpetual…" were clearly obvious to them when they made these choices.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That seems wildly optimistic.

You don’t think dropping your bargaining power in the middle is the best strategy in a negotiation?

 

[pdude81]

Just because it's not popular now doesn't mean it won't be popular in the future -- also, depending on the governor, they may not care if it's popular overall as long as it's popular enough to their base.

That's a pretty big risk to take for Disney.

A bigger risk than keeping Garcia and Gilzean on the board as active disruptors? I don't agree with their decision to stall the federal lawsuit, but I understand why they saw the status quo as a risk to growth over the next few years.

 

[Brian]

A bigger risk than keeping Garcia and Gilzean on the board as active disruptors? I don't agree with their decision to stall the federal lawsuit, but I understand why they the status quo as a risk to growth over the next few years.

Not to nitpick, but Gilzean was district administrator, not a board member.

 

[pdude81]

Not to nitpick, but Gilzean was district administrator, not a board member.

You're right. This has been going on so long I just lumped all the antagonists together.

 

[mkt]

Control of what? A new development agreement, which has to lock in what already exists, still hasn’t even been presented for public review.

The new agreement will be functionally the same as the one Disney was sued over.

 

[Brian]

You're right. This has been going on so long I just lumped all the antagonists together.

That's understandable for sure. I just felt inclined to make the distinction due to the ongoing conversation, as the district administrator is selected by the board, while the board is selected by the governor.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The new agreement will be functionally the same as the one Disney was sued over.

The settlement acknowledged the “need” to change the comprehensive plan, which undermines this idea. So too does the lack of an agreement, as the 2032 Comprehensive Plan wasn’t that different than the again in force 2020 Comprehensive Plan.

 

[Unbanshee]

That's understandable for sure. I just felt inclined to make the distinction due to the ongoing conversation, as the district administrator is selected by the board, while the board is selected by the governor.

Both are effectively picked by the Governor, just not technically. Look no further than the communications "strategy" with the replacement of Gilzean of the Governor's office getting out ahead of every single step of the process