Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Understood. So really its the district that actually suffers when money that should go to support the district operations are going to lawyers. Its truly sad.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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GrumpyFan
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Not sure if it's intended or not, but it seems like this litigation is drowning the district in legal bills.
I have to wonder if there's any recourse to this. If Disney wins the law suit, and RCID is restored, can they then sue the state and the Governor to recoup the legal fees?
I have to wonder if there's any recourse to this. If Disney wins the law suit, and RCID is restored, can they then sue the state and the Governor to recoup the legal fees?
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Good point. TWDC has ALL THE MONEY. Maybe it’s the INTENTION of TWDC to drown CFTOD in legal bills to the point the only responsible thing for CFTOD is to give up?
TWDC is rich and powerful enough to be able to do this.
(You know who) really had no idea who he was messing with.
This is going to even more ugly before it’s over.
It’s SO CLEAR why previous administrations LEFT RCID ALONE for the good of everyone!
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Just stop.
The websites for the cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake will no longer be hosted on rcid.org as of September 5.
The new websites are listed below. It also appears that John Classe is no longer the City Manager for Lake Buena Vista as it is now listed as an open position.
cityoflakebuenavistafl.gov
cityofbaylakefl.gov
The new websites are listed below. It also appears that John Classe is no longer the City Manager for Lake Buena Vista as it is now listed as an open position.
Home - City of Lake Buena Vista
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the...
cityoflakebuenavistafl.gov
Home - City of Bay Lake
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the Horizons...
cityofbaylakefl.gov
flynnibus
Premium Member
Interesting because previously the cities basically had no staff of their own.. and even with this split of websites, public records requests, etc still point to the shared RCID email.The websites for the cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake will no longer be hosted on rcid.org as of September 5.
The new websites are listed below. It also appears that John Classe is no longer the City Manager for Lake Buena Vista as it is now listed as an open position.
Home - City of Lake Buena Vista
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the...Home - City of Bay Lake
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the Horizons...
Will they stop sharing resources with the district too I wonder?
Yes, please.
The websites for the cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake will no longer be hosted on rcid.org as of September 5.
The new websites are listed below. It also appears that John Classe is no longer the City Manager for Lake Buena Vista as it is now listed as an open position.
Home - City of Lake Buena Vista
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the...Home - City of Bay Lake
Public Notices The Bay Lake City Council and the Lake Buena Vista City Council will hold their regular meetings on March 13, May 8, July 10, and November 13, 2024, at 8:30 am (Bay Lake) and 9 am (LBV) at the Wyndham Lake Buena Vista, 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL in the Horizons...
I think Classe was required to leave the Lake Buena Vista position when his employment with the district ended. The employment contract he signed in May for the "special advisor" position contains a 2-year non-compete clause.
(BTW, Gilzean's contract does not contain such a clause, as far as I can tell.)
Interesting, wonder if they have to find a new place to have their monthly meetings
The last special meeting on August 30 was hosted in the Disney Springs parking garage conference room.
JKick95
Active Member
Why can’t they host it it the traditional office building?
Cost to rent the conference room may have gone up.
JKick95
Active Member
Interesting. For some reason I would have thought it been no charge since they are the board.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
No member of the city councils are on the district’s board of supervisors. They’re three distinct entities.
As someone said, it could be something simple like cos to use the room may have not been available to use for that day. On both websites it shows the main meeting room being the regular meeting room at RCID/CFTOD HQ.
Based on Disney’s last filing in the state lawsuit, the cities might end up as parties too. That possibility, plus the disagreements over the millage rate and who’s paying for police security services, may have contributed to a decision to more clearly separate the public face of the three different bodies?
That would be interesting if that happened. During the meetings of the cities, they both said they were not reducing their mileage rate and were keeping the police contracts with OCSO, which put them at odds with the CFTOD.
According to WESH,
“WESH 2 News has learned the CFTOD has been trying to take control over the off-duty deputy program. The administrator recommended the cities reduce their property tax millage rates and remove the programs from their budgets so that the district could then assume the program.”
Fight brewing over law enforcement on Disney property
The people DeSantis appointed to the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District want to take over a program that pays for off-duty deputies at the theme parks.
www.wesh.com
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That would be interesting if that happened. During the meetings of the cities, they both said they were not reducing their mileage rate and were keeping the police contracts with OCSO, which put them at odds with the CFTOD.
According to WESH,
“WESH 2 News has learned the CFTOD has been trying to take control over the off-duty deputy program. The administrator recommended the cities reduce their property tax millage rates and remove the programs from their budgets so that the district could then assume the program.”
Fight brewing over law enforcement on Disney property
The people DeSantis appointed to the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District want to take over a program that pays for off-duty deputies at the theme parks.
I wonder how long the cities will continue to exist as separate entities?
It’s been a topic of discussion here before. It definitely is something that is not off the table by any means.
The chairman of the board of CFTOD commented that, “
The following day, however, the city councils of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista surprisingly voted to raise property tax rates in order to continue paying the bills for security services used by Disney. The CFTOD board remains convinced that a multibillion-dollar corporation is more than able to cover this cost. This peculiar, though not wholly unexpected, development makes it that much more apparent why the new CFTOD board is essential as an independent and honest broker. Until the new board was appointed, Disney enjoyed undue influence over many businesses in the district. It further unduly influences city council members, who rent their homes from Disney.“
This is from the letter to the editor in the Orlando Sentinel by the head of the CFTOD Board.
Letters: Disney district chairman says company still holds too much sway here
Other letter-writers discussed how the Trump indictment is a Democratic distraction and the Democrats’ wariness of third parties.
www.orlandosentinel.com
In terms of how long the cities will continue to exist Is an interesting thought exercise.
1. A potential recommendation to dissolve the cities could potentially be included in a report to the legislature. As part of the Legislation, reauthorizing the district, the district is required to submit a report to the legislature on improvements to the district. It just so happens that the district authorized a contract with a professor at George Mason University to help with this report.
2. The residents of the municipality could theoretically vote to dissolve cities or (take this with a grain of salt because I’m not 100% sure of the specifics) the legislature could dissolve the cities.
3. There is a potential third way that could alter the dynamics of the cities, that I am not 100% sure on. All of the current residents of both cities rent the land from Disney. If there were district owned land in the cities that they(CFTOD) decided to build housing on, would those new residents gain voting rights on municipal elections in the cities if they were résumé for at least six months-year?
It’s been a topic of discussion here before. It definitely is something that is not off the table by any means.
The chairman of the board of CFTOD commented that, “
The following day, however, the city councils of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista surprisingly voted to raise property tax rates in order to continue paying the bills for security services used by Disney. The CFTOD board remains convinced that a multibillion-dollar corporation is more than able to cover this cost. This peculiar, though not wholly unexpected, development makes it that much more apparent why the new CFTOD board is essential as an independent and honest broker. Until the new board was appointed, Disney enjoyed undue influence over many businesses in the district. It further unduly influences city council members, who rent their homes from Disney.“
This is from the letter to the editor in the Orlando Sentinel by the head of the CFTOD Board.
Letters: Disney district chairman says company still holds too much sway here
Other letter-writers discussed how the Trump indictment is a Democratic distraction and the Democrats’ wariness of third parties.
In terms of how long the cities will continue to exist Is an interesting thought exercise.
1. A potential recommendation to dissolve the cities could potentially be included in a report to the legislature. As part of the Legislation, reauthorizing the district, the district is required to submit a report to the legislature on improvements to the district. It just so happens that the district authorized a contract with a professor at George Mason University to help with this report.
2. The residents of the municipality could theoretically vote to dissolve cities or (take this with a grain of salt because I’m not 100% sure of the specifics) the legislature could dissolve the cities.
3. There is a potential third way that could alter the dynamics of the cities, that I am not 100% sure on. All of the current residents of both cities rent the land from Disney. If there were district owned land in the cities that they(CFTOD) decided to build housing on, would those new residents gain voting rights on municipal elections in the cities if they were résumé for at least six months-year?
The board meetings have been... let's say "interesting".