Recent Beer Price Increases

unmitigated disaster

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After being drafted into the Army, I spent 18 months in Germany, including a week at the Oktoberfest in Munich. You have no idea what you are talking about!
I think it's like cheese. If you've only ever had American or Cheez-Whiz you're going to bash American cheeses, because you've never had cheese from an independent dairy. Wisconsin alone has something like 105 independently owned dairies making their own cheese. And I'm not sure that includes goat cheese.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Our beer isn’t beer. Meaning just. Malted barley ,hops. And locally sourced water. Yeast also. There is very few domestic beers that even qualify as real beer as strictly defined. Heck. Heineken is better than most of our beers. Whisky and beer are two things we don’t do well here. There is a reason the best whisky comes from Scotland and beer comes from a few European nations. After spending 3 years in England in the military. You lean just how ****y our beer is. I’d say Stella and Heineken is the best available beer anywhere. Carlsberg and London pride along with Hofbrau or Paulaner is the best lagers. Sorry, Europe owns us concerning beer and whisky.

Oof, I would have to be pretty hard up to settle for a Stella or a Heineken.
 

Hockey89

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I think it's like cheese. If you've only ever had American or Cheez-Whiz you're going to bash American cheeses, because you've never had cheese from an independent dairy. Wisconsin alone has something like 105 independently owned dairies making their own cheese. And I'm not sure that includes goat cheese.
100%...
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
Probably not. When folks spend time over seas. It makes them aware of what we lack here. Especially concerning beer and whisky.

I'd disagree. The production landscape of alcoholic beverages is ever changing. Case in point would be the Reinheitsgebot (circa 1536) being replaced in Germany in 1993 and the homogenization of mass-produced beers as InBev, Ashai, Heinekin and others bought up all the competition. Currently, there are over 7,440 breweries in the US which is up from a low of 110 in 1986. We arent forced to suffer through PBR or Iron City anymore as more is available. Prohibition destroyed many wonderful and successful businesses with quality unique products developed over generations. It's taken this long to escape generic swill.
 

OneofThree

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Most American whisky uses corn. That’s a no no. Johnny Drum and a Four Roses is very good and top quality. Scotland though just makes great whisky. I’d say Four Roses is the best US whisky. Maybe Willet branded bourbons also.

You're out of touch with the US whiskey scene. Right now is sort of a golden age for the spirit, and that includes America. While corn is predominant (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that), an increasing number of US distillers are producing single malt offerings. Nothing wrong with Four Roses, but it's unremarkable amidst numerous other quality bourbons, some craft and some from larger distillers such as Heaven Hill or Buffalo Trace.

And for the record, my whisky of choice isn't American at all, it's Islay.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
You're out of touch with the US whiskey scene. Right now is sort of a golden age for the spirit, and that includes America. While corn is predominant (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that), an increasing number of US distillers are producing single malt offerings. Nothing wrong with Four Roses, but it's unremarkable amidst numerous other quality bourbons, some craft and some from larger distillers such as Heaven Hill or Buffalo Trace.

And for the record, my whisky of choice isn't American at all, it's Islay.

Mine isnt tax stamped ;)
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
You're out of touch with the US whiskey scene. Right now is sort of a golden age for the spirit, and that includes America. While corn is predominant (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that), an increasing number of US distillers are producing single malt offerings. Nothing wrong with Four Roses, but it's unremarkable amidst numerous other quality bourbons, some craft and some from larger distillers such as Heaven Hill or Buffalo Trace.

And for the record, my whisky of choice isn't American at all, it's Islay.
Unless you're drinking whiskey mash, this tangent belongs in its own thread...
 

disneyfireman

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You're out of touch with the US whiskey scene. Right now is sort of a golden age for the spirit, and that includes America. While corn is predominant (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that), an increasing number of US distillers are producing single malt offerings. Nothing wrong with Four Roses, but it's unremarkable amidst numerous other quality bourbons, some craft and some from larger distillers such as Heaven Hill or Buffalo Trace.

And for the record, my whisky of choice isn't American at all, it's Islay.
Islay and Campbeltown scotch is pretty much the only Whisky I drink. Throw Four Roses and Johnny Drum in also for bourbon. When it comes to Scotch though. It has to be non chill filtered and natural color.
Ardbeg ...Laphroaig quarter cask. Glen Scotia. Springbank. All good whiskys. Some of Laphroaig is chill filtered so got to be careful. Same with Lagavulin. All of the Springbank (Campbeltown) and Ardbeg (islay)offerings. is non chill filtered. Natural color.
It’s hard to find bourbon non chill filtered. Wish it wasn’t.
 
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